În sâm., 5 feb. 2022 la 19:53, Andre Klapper <aklap...@wikimedia.org> a scris: > > On Sat, 2022-02-05 at 18:43 +0200, Strainu wrote: > > I am aware of the various limits in the NewPP report. I'm trying to > > determine if we currently we have some max page size (before or after > > processing). > > > > The documentation on mw.org and en.wp is a bit confusing on the > > subject and personal experimentation shows that substituting > > templates allows be to go past the 2MiB page size. > > What does "personal experimentation" mean exactly? There might be > exceptions like https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188852 but generally > speaking, as neither > https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/InitialiseSettings.php.txt nor > https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/CommonSettings.php.txt seem to change > the MediaWiki software default setting defined in > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/DefaultSettings.php$2673 > I'd assume that we're at 2MiB.
Hey Andre, Thanks for taking the time to respond to my curiosity during the weekend. Here is what I experimented with: * for post-parser size (which would have been my first guess given that for templates we count the *Post‐expand include size*) I just measured the size of the .mw-parser-output div. For this, I took the output of [1] (which is a mix of included and substituded templates and is displayed just fine) and it was well over 8MiB. * for pre-parser size, I took the same page [1], added some more templates and started saving while substituting them (e.g. I have 1.5 MiB of text and a few thousand templates which I sustitute in one go). One version which goes over the 2MiB limit is [2]. Now, because of the way those templates are written (pretty verbose and with a lot of whitespace) the difference between the template and the result of the substitution is small, so the page size is just over the limit, but one can imagine a template expanding near 2MiB the limit a couple of times could take a page to ~4MiB without much effort. I understand from your message that these are bugs and the limit is still enforced. However, I still don't understand the logic in having a limit for wikitext in pages, but a limit for post-expand (if I understand correctly, that is after they go through the parser) in templates. Why not have a single limit set to something like 8-12-16 MiB and counted after all the processing is done? Thanks again, Strainu [1] https://ro.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bunuri_mobile_din_domeniul_%C8%99tiin%C8%9Bele_naturii_clasate_%C3%AEn_patrimoniul_cultural_na%C8%9Bional_al_Rom%C3%A2niei_aflate_%C3%AEn_municipiul_Bucure%C8%99ti_(tezaur)&oldid=14712585 [2] https://ro.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utilizator:Strainu/2&oldid=14784282 > > See also https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T189108 about requesting an > increase, and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181907#3835654 > for some more background. > > Cheers, > andre > -- > Andre Klapper (he/him) | Bugwrangler / Developer Advocate > https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list -- wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wikitech-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list -- wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikitech-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/
