On 13 February 2012 22:07, Stanton McCandlish <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Pavel Tkachenko <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> I even think templates should only be
>> created by devs after discussion, otherwise it results in what we see
>> now.
> You can't be serious. Half the useful work at I do at en.wikipedia is
> template coding, to do all sorts of useful things. If I had to apply though
> some anal process of developer supplication to get something like {{Shamos
> 1999}} or {{Rp}} or {{Cue sports nav}} set up, I would simply quit the
> project. I don't mean that in a histrionic WP:DIVA way, I mean it would
> just frustrate me too much to not be able to fix things, expediently, that
> need to be fixed and which have to do with usage of the tools and writing a
> wiki, not with the underlying coding of the tools themelves. It's
> exceedingly presumptuous of developers of tools to suggest they should be in
> control of how people use the tools and work internally around their
> limitations. Which are often severe (see {{bq}} and {{gloss}}, especially
> the latter's subpage of test cases showing how awful MW's parsing of
> definition lists is when not overridden with explicit HTML). Note: All of
> what I'm referring to is at en.wikipedia.org.
Yes. The fundamental reason people do unspeakable things with
ParserFunctions is precisely so they don't need to go through a
gatekeeper. This is a feature, even if the ParserFunctions syntax
isn't.
(Every domain-specific language that is allowed to become
Turing-complete turns into brainfuck.)
- d.
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