Hi Subbu,

Many thanks for your answer. It confirmed some of my thoughts on how this
might be done.

I'll take this back to our team and get back if I have any updates.

Cheers,
André

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On 28 October 2015 at 19:17, Subramanya Sastry <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> I think you are looking for a solution that can attach metadata to
> specific places in the DOM -- there have been other contexts where this has
> come up as well. So, I think we need a generic solution to do this.
>
> That said, Parsoid assigns ids to individual elements in the DOM, and so,
> an easy way to do this would be to store this data keyed on element ids and
> then looked up this metadata separately.
>
> As for stability, we right now don't guarantee it, but this has come up
> previously ( https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116350 ) and we haven't
> tackled it because there hasn't been a compelling use case that would
> benefit immediately from it, and we cannot reliably guarantee that the ids
> will continue to be stable across a series of wikitext edits.
>
> But, on a edit-to-edit basis, Parsoid already does dom-diffs and
> identifies only the edited portions of the DOM (and this is used internally
> to support no-dirty-diff serialization of edited HTML to wikitext).
> However, this functionality is not exposed currently outside of internal
> Parsoid use.
>
> This doesn't answer your questions directly, but hope this is atleast in
> the direction of what you are looking for.
>
> Subbu.
>
>
> On 10/28/2015 06:31 AM, André Costa wrote:
>
> I have some general Parsoid questions I hoped someone here might help me
> with.
>
> The background is that we are doing some preliminary work looking at how
> Text-to-Speech might work on Wikipedia (there will be some info online in
> the coming weeks).
>
> One detail of this is that you might occasionally have to highlight
> specific words/sentences that are dealt with differently (e.g. World War
> III -> World War 3). It is still unclear how frequent such things would be
> but if they are very frequent then there would likely be push-back from the
> community if this is stored in the normal wikitext.
>
> In this case we would have to store the markup outside of the wikitext and
> any viewing/editing of it would have to happen in some user enabled
> extension of the normal environment.
>
> And here we come to the question.
> 1. If we would have to store this markup outside of the wikitext could
> this be done by storing the individual parsoid-data-units?
> 2. Would it be possible to add these units to the existing parsoid-data
> (which gets loaded from the wikitext) when loading a page?
> 3. Would it be possible to detect which of these units would be affected
> by edits to the wikipage?
>
> This is still in the early stages so mainly we are looking at what
> possibilities exist should we need them. Using Parsoid data was something
> we thought of as a light-weight solution to having to store a synced copy
> of the wikitext+additional markup.
>
> Cheers,
> André
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