hi, earlier, i reported a problem with create_icon_window. It doesn't crash anymore with today's cvs (it says an error occurred when initing the tray icon). The application (winmx) continues to load, but it keeps moving downwards. This only occurs when using enlightenment, with window maker it stays still :-) Maybe it's a bug in enlightenment? regards adriaan moors -- Have you ever noticed that the people who are always trying to tell you, "There's a time for work and a time for play," never find the time for play?