>>>>> "Dimitrie" == Dimitrie O Paun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dimitrie> On October 30, 2002 01:57 am, Ender wrote: >> - Many apps do not work without Desktop enabled. This is far worse >> than it sounds, because most newbies try managed non-desktop >> first. People think WINE should be able to do seemless >> intergration. Then when an application hangs, they think it's >> incompatible and give up. However in many cases the Application will >> work fine in Desktop mode. BAD, these apps should either be made to >> work... or non-desktop mode should be removed! Dimitrie> IMO desktop mode exists only because our integration is not Dimitrie> very good. It should die sooner, rather than later, it's just Dimitrie> a big hack. So we should rather focus on getting apps to work Dimitrie> in non-desktop more, rather then resurrecting the silly Dimitrie> desktop option. Well, my opinion on desktop mode is another one. It's not silly. Two examples: - any program in non-desktop mode switching to full screen (hey, a lot of programs like installer do that) and crashing later without a proper setup of the debugger. No most users are left in a situation they can't easily solve, as they don't know that they still can switch consoles and kill wine... - any application poping up endless series of new processes, each process grabbing keyboard focus. In a good desktop mode I would expect the real focus not to switch from the outside to the desktop. As now each process spawns it's own new desktop, focus is switched anyways. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------