> Any one have on of the games I mentioned??? (these > games aren't particlerly common)
Well, seeing where you crash and the +ddraw trace just before, it's a pretty common set of consecutive DDraw calls common to many games. Did you try more games or only these two ? > I did not change the confige or anything from the prev > installtion, but this is what I do every cvs update > usualy without clean and configure but this time I had > to becouse of some d3d compile problems... Well, considering that neither me nor Raphael has never seen this issue, I think that you will have to debug it yourself... Or try to find a demo version of these games showing the issue for us to be able to debug it :-) If you want to debug it yourself, break on 'HAL_DirectDraw_Construct', see that 'This->local.lpGbl' is correctly initialized and then put a watchpoint on the lpGbl variable to see when it goes back to being NULL. Lionel -- Lionel Ulmer - http://www.bbrox.org/