Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:

I already checked out FreeDCE and the newly released DCE-RPC several days
ago. Neither provides a DCOM implementation, neither resembles what we
need. We may be able to take some code or ideas from them with some work
to massage it, but there's not much of use there.



dear mike,

you are correct about DCE 1.2.2 not containing DCOM: it is
FreeDCE that does.

other than that - with all due respect, and if i understand
you correctly: you are wrong [or looking in the wrong place]

see this:

        
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/freedce/freedce/dcom/dcom.h?rev=1.1&view=markup

which has been available for just over four years, now.



I hope you're joking. A DCOM implementation is more than a header file containing a few comments and a few declarations of Win32 functions that are randomly placed in there.


are you _seriously_ intending to reimplement the DCE/RPC IDL
compiler - because that's what's required!!!



We already have our own IDL parser. The only step left is for it to generate appropriate type format strings in the same format as Microsoft use.


DCOM is DCE/RPC underneath: DCOM even has the uuids and
transports of DCE/RPC.


We know.

 DCOM is just a c++ wrapper on top of
some underlying c APIs,


No, it is an object oriented wrapper for normal RPC interfaces where a state parameter representing the object is implicitly passed to the function. It has nothing to do with the language.


and from what i can gather, you "up"
the revision numbers of the interfaces, which DCE/RPC can even
do for you.



No. DCOM interfaces always have a version number of 0.0. To create extend an interface you must create a new interface. Microsoft typically appends a number to the interface name and makes the new one inherit from the old one. I suggest you take a few minutes to read the DCOM draft specification, which should clear up a few misconceptions.


perhaps i should put you in touch with wez furlong who did
the original FreeDCE DCOM work.



What DCOM work?

you _cannot_ be serious about reinventing the 250,000 lines
of c code required to properly support DCE/RPC which is a
prerequisite for supporting DCOM.



I think you're over estimating by a factor of 2.5 there. Sure, it is a large undertaking, but one that we can do one step at a time. We don't have to implement *every* protocol to start with and we don't have to implement every Ndr data type.


i can understand the samba team doing that, but _another_
project doing it???

please tell me i am wrong in believing that you are giving
serious consideration to a _third_ DCE/RPC runtime and
development environment, to compete with samba 4's GPL'd
implementation which is in development and with FreeDCE's
complete reference implementation which is available under an
OSF 1.0 BSD-like license.



No other project has implemented an API that is compatible to Microsoft's yet.


Rob



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