On Tuesday February 19 2008 03:11:24 Austin English wrote: > On Feb 18, 2008 8:53 PM, Christopher Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > L. Rahyen wrote: > > > On Monday February 18 2008 19:44:08 Austin English wrote: > > >> On Feb 18, 2008 12:35 PM, L. Rahyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Of course, there is some people who like forums. If we decide > > >>> to create forum specifically for them, it is important to have > > >>> possibility to subscribe for receiving all (full) messages from the > > >>> forum to e-mail with direct link to reply page for corresponding > > >>> message, and ability to login permanently without stupid timeout > > >>> (using cookies). In fact there is some forums like this > > >>> (unfortunately, all of them are unrelated to WINE) and they are > > >>> pretty usable (however, personally I like mailing lists more, and > > >>> didn't used forums for a long time). Of course, if there is no > > >>> volunteer(s) to create and support such forum - then wine-users is > > >>> enough I think. > > >> > > >> In my experience, the 'older' crowd prefers newsgroups, but 'younger' > > >> people prefer message boards. Similar to how more advanced users > > >> prefer CLI, but inexperienced/novices use GUI. It seems to me we're > > >> trying to help the gui type of person, and a message board would be an > > >> easier way to do this, IMHO. > > > > > > Then what exactly we want? It is useful to decide what we need. > > > For example, phpBB forum with certain mods/modifications to give > > > functionality I mentioned. If we agree with this (or decide to choose > > > something else), then we can discuss next details, etc. > > > In fact, if we decide to create phpBB forum, I can help here. I > > > have programming experience with this in the past, and I can create > > > ready-for-use forum if we decide we need this (of course I can make > > > also its design, etc.). Also, I can give hosting on my server. > > > But first, we should make decision what we need. If above offer > > > is acceptable, then design details can be discussed farther. If not > > > then what is acceptable. > > > > Why not make a forum and then have winehq link to it? If it becomes > > popular maybe it'll become the official one. That's the spirit of the > > GPL, the way I see it, don't need popular support or permission. > > If everyone seems happy the way wine-forum.org is organized, we could > simply add a link on winehq. That way we don't add another forum to > the mix, and also have one area that can gather users of wine with > winehq's blessing.
What I want to say is to wait 1-2 months and see what will change in wine-forum after this discussion. If major issues will not be fixed after this time then I think creating the forum from scratch is better just because I already have heavily modified and improved source code of phpBB forum (but it is somewhat old; however, updating to new version should be not very hard task) - so in my case much less programming is needed at the start. If I decide to create the forum in next few weeks, then let another 2-3 months to pass... After this it should be possible to make elaborated decisions. There is no need for rush in this case I think. Also Christopher Harvey is right, maybe it is better to create the forum first and only after this + 2-4 months waiting discuss this topic again. Then comparison with other forums will be possible in order to pick the best. But as I said, I want to wait at least 3-4 weeks to see if wine-forum.org will start to improve or not... If not I probably will try to create something better.