James Hawkins wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Austin English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Bryan Haskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I'm more interested in a direct pulseaudio gateway for Wine... since by >> > application sound control is the biggest thing here for most people.... >> wine >> > is treated as one big audio blob. Pulse sees it as one thing. In effect, >> > wine handles it's own audio (by talking with ALSA or OSS) then passes that >> > through to the outside sound server... which in most cases would simply be >> > ALSA or OSS itself, but in this case it gets passed to ALSA/OSS and >> through >> > this talks to pulse. I call that pretty messy when we could just directly >> > talk to pulse audio (easily, too) and have by applications control. Pulse >> is >> > going to be in pretty much every distro soon. For a 1.0 release, no one >> > wants to go out of their way to accomodate the shortcomings of our audio >> > control. >> > >> > Even directly sending the blobof output to pulse directly at first would >> > simplify things. I know this means yet asnother audio output method to >> > maintain, and for various reasons many are against it. But this is similar >> > to us needing to improve ALSA support rather recently. Pulseaudio does >> > directly support ALSA, but it's a bit demanding on how it need to work to >> be >> > perfect. >> > >> > ALSA, Pulseaudio, and OSS are probably the big three we need support for. >> > Pulse is a drop in replacement for things like Network Sound, and way >> easier >> > to configure and use. >> > >> > Sorry for expanding the topic so much. >> >
>> >> This has been brought up before, and it's quite a bit of work. You >> can't just simply forward everything to pulse call it a day, you'd >> need to implement a full structure/drivers/etc., which would require >> quite a bit of time/work and is likely outside of the scope of 1.0. >> > > And I believe Julliard rejected the idea of adding a pulseaudio driver. Nope! He isn't against a pulseaudio driver. He is against yet another broken and half implemented driver for the desktop sound system that happens to be en vogue at the moment. I think he would love to see a clean, full implemented pulseaudio driver; presented in a nice easy review-able patch series which cleans up the wineaudio driver mess en passant. bye michael