2009/2/28 Dan Kegel <d...@kegel.com>: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Ben Klein <shackl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> 2009/2/26 Dan Kegel <d...@kegel.com>: >>> Our currently released version is 1.0, but the appdb's >>> browse feature acts as if that version no longer exists. >>> This will seriously confuse newcomers who are using >>> the 1.0.1 version (e.g. anybody who installs a fresh >>> copy of Ubuntu!). >> >> Someone mentioned on another thread (or possibly on IRC, I don't >> recall) that 1.0-series is too old to be of concern to us. We don't >> want test data for 1.0.x; we don't want bug reports for 1.0.x unless >> they're still apparent in the development version. Development has >> stopped on 1.0.x. > > That's a fine attitude from the developer's point of view, > but that means that Wine *doesn't care* about Ubuntu > users who expect to be able to use Wine by doing > "add/remove" in the system menu. > > And I think we do care.
No more than any other distro, to be honest. > Another way around this, as Scott Ritchie pointed out, is > to arrange for what's in Ubuntu to be less stale. However, > there are only two ways to do that: either do a stable > release more often (which is difficult, and which Alexandre > doesn't seem inclined to do), or get Ubuntu to accept an > unstable snapshot into their stable repository (which I think > they are not inclined to do). Maybe someone should tell them that 1.0.1 is "broken" compared to latest development release. This isn't untrue - 1.1.15 has better success with a lot of apps. Basically, someone should tell them that Wine's "stable" branch is just a code freeze, and has nothing to do with crash-resistant stability. > Yet another way to show that we care about Ubuntu > users would be to make it drop-dead simple for > the average user to add the Wine repository and get > the latest wine. The current download instructions are > really too complicated. We need instructions that are > no more complicated than > > First: > Click *here* to add WineHQ's repository > > Then: > Do Applications / 'Add / Remove', and choose Wine The instructions were like this at one point: download this script, run it, go to Add/Remove. Again, I think it's unproductive to hide information from the users. At least with the current instructions they can see *exactly* what's going on, and they don't have to worry about manual editing or the user-unfriendly command-line ... I'd also think the average user might be sceptical of an all-in-one script that changes the configuration of their system. "Why is this thing asking for my password? What is it doing? Can I really trust it?" etc. etc. > That would compensate for the packages in Ubuntu's repo being stale. > - Dan