On 3/28/11 7:15 PM, Austin English wrote:
2011/3/29 James McKenzie<jjmckenzi...@gmail.com>:
On 3/28/11 9:28 AM, André Hentschel wrote:
Am 28.03.2011 17:27, schrieb James McKenzie:
2011/3/27 André Hentschel<n...@dawncrow.de>:
Am 27.03.2011 13:50, schrieb Francois Gouget:
Some Wine programs, winefile in particular, have a lot of unimplemented
menus. That is you can see the menu entry but clicking on it only gives
you a 'Not yet implemented' error dialog (or does nothing in the case
of iexplore). For instance just for the first two winefile menus none
of the following are implemented:
File -> Print...
File -> Associate...
File -> Search...
File -> Select Files...
Disk -> Share as...
Disk -> Remove Share...
Disk -> Select Drive...
I think such a situation is bad:
* Having tons of unimplemented menus looks amateurish.
* It's very confusing. You see tons of menus except over 50% of them
don't work. So it makes the GUI more complex with no benefit.
* I suspect most of these menus have been unimplemented for years
so there is little hope of seeing them improve any time soon.
* For a number of them it's questionable whether it makes sense to
implement them in Wine at all as they correspond to tasks that
better belong to the native system facilities (Share as for
instance).
* I doubt they serve any significant compatibility purpose.
* In the mean time they generate more work for translators and
translation reviewers.
* It generates more work for anyone checking whether the GUI is
consistent / follows human interface guidelines (wrt. ellipses for
instance).
So I propose to simply remove unimplemented menus. When / if someone
ever decides to implement some of the corresponding functionality,
adding the corresponding code and GUI bits back should not be too hard.
Objections?
Good Idea, at least for the year old stub menus (like winefile).
For recently added, with hope to see them implemented in the next time
(maybe gsoc), we should wait some month (e.g. iexplore) IMO.
I agree. This was proposed as a GOSC project by one of the people.
There is a thread on Wine Users about these menus being
'unimplemented' and how they should be. Would this be a good item for
a bug report for an Request for Enhancement?
IMHO no, there is no point i think.
PS: is this meant to be also sent to wine-devel?
Are these features the program should possess or not? These tend to be
'standard' menu items for most Windows programs and the underlying code does
lie in Windows, not the individual programs and has since the Windows 3.x
days.
Theoretically they should be there, yes, but it's not really worth the effort.
At least we could implement some sort of stub to popup a dialog to say
the function is not implemented in Wine? Does Excel have a Open... and
Save... menu item (these are also implemented in Windows or is it the
program?)
James McKenzie
