Bear in mind the controllers are designed to remove associations (and save
resources) if there hasn't been any traffic seen from the clients.  The User
Idle Timeout is responsible for this behavior.  

You can increase this value from its default of 300s to a higher value.  This
will keep the (inactive) association active longer.  I'm trying to find out from
Cisco whether this will preserve L3 roaming for mobile devices that don't issue
DHCP renewals effectively.  Note this can increase memory utilization and will
adversely impact location-by-association.

BTW, here's an example of the radio reset syslog messages I'm seeing from the
APs.  Looks like it might be related to another control-plane management
function like the aforementioned TSM.  Only the b/g radios are affected.

10-08-2008      18:28:46        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17333:
AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
10-08-2008      18:28:45        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17332:
AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down
10-08-2008      18:28:40        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17331:
AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
10-08-2008      18:28:40        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17330:
AP:0016.465a.884c: %SYS-3-MGDTIMER: Running timer, init, timer = A0786C.
-Process= "LWAPP 802.11 MAC Management Reception", ipl= 0, pid= 37 -Traceback=
0x5DCB8 0x15F194 0x15F300 0x15F490 0x46F17C 0x46D0E0 0x46D4C4 0x46D5BC 0x193F50
10-08-2008      18:28:39        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17329:
AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down
10-08-2008      18:12:20        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16239:
AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
10-08-2008      18:12:19        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16238:
AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down
10-08-2008      18:12:14        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16237:
AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
10-08-2008      18:10:42        Local7.Error    172.20.42.143   101:
AP:001e.be27.017e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
10-08-2008      18:10:42        Local7.Error    172.20.42.143   100:
AP:001e.be27.017e: %SYS-3-MGDTIMER: Running timer, init, timer = D382B4.
-Process= "LWAPP 802.11 MAC Management Reception", ipl= 0, pid= 42 -Traceback=
0x5DCB8 0x161FBC 0x162128 0x1622B8 0x4C32FC 0x4C1260 0x4C1644 0x4C173C 0x196D90
10-08-2008      18:10:41        Local7.Error    172.20.42.143   99:
AP:001e.be27.017e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down
10-08-2008      18:10:36        Local7.Error    172.20.42.143   98:
AP:001e.be27.017e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
10-08-2008      18:10:35        Local7.Error    172.20.42.143   97:
AP:001e.be27.017e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down
10-08-2008      18:07:40        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17328:
AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
10-08-2008      18:07:39        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17327:
AP:0016.465a.884c: %SYS-3-MGDTIMER: Running timer, init, timer = A07D7C.
-Process= "LWAPP 802.11 MAC Management Reception", ipl= 0, pid= 37 -Traceback=
0x5DCB8 0x15F194 0x15F300 0x15F490 0x46F17C 0x46D0E0 0x46D4C4 0x46D5BC 0x193F50
10-08-2008      18:07:39        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17326:
AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down
10-08-2008      18:07:34        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17325:
AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
10-08-2008      18:07:33        Local7.Error    172.20.42.198   17324:
AP:0016.465a.884c: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down
10-08-2008      18:00:20        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16236:
AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
10-08-2008      18:00:19        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16235:
AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down
10-08-2008      18:00:14        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16234:
AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
10-08-2008      18:00:13        Local7.Error    132.183.112.28  16233:
AP:0015.fa05.a54e: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Lane
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 6:24 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Wireless Controller

We've been running a "Engineering Special" version of 4.2.130.0 since 
August and it's been stable so far. We had several problems with 
4.2.185.0 including controller reboots and lockups. The general release 
version of 4.2.130.0 fixed all the major problems we were seeing except 
two and the engineering special took care of those.

We're just starting to get reports from clients with random disconnects.

--Todd

Mike King wrote:
> So Cisco LWAPP people,
> 
> Currently we're on 4.1.185.0 <http://4.1.185.0>. It's a 4402 controller, 
> with 1131AG access points.
> 
> Anyone made the leap to one of the 4.2, 5.0 , or 5.1 trains without 
> seriously regretting it?
> 
> We've had some random disconnects with clients.  It's pretty common, 
> happening to most all users.  We're running WPA-PSK, so it's not an 
> 802.1x issue.  Before we involve TAC, we figured we should upgrade to a 
> new code train.
> 
> Mike
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