Hi Joe-

For sure I see this on 3550 switch today, and am digging to see where else this 
has occurred from the switch perspective. So you've done your thing in a sort 
of proactive monitoring mode, or in response to a found condition?

-Lee

Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003
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Lee,

We had to do this across campus with any AP connected to a 3550 or 2950 series 
switch.

I actually wrote a script that would telnet to our controllers, get the AP 
status and send the power injector command if need be.

--Joe

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Hi Bruce-

A mix of old and new across several switching models.

Opening a TAC case, if any substance emerges, will share with the group. I'm 
seeing other anecdotal evidence that this sort of thing is far from being a 
Cisco-only problem, though.

-Lee

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Lee,

How old are these 1130s?  Some older ones have issues using all the 5GHz bands, 
they may have other issues.

Check the Field Notices on CCO.

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On Mar 19, 2009, at 11:13 AM, "Lee H Badman" 
<lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote:
Running 4.2.176, but have seen this going back to 3.2. Is an occasional 
occurrence, rarely the same AP twice, and usually somewhat out of the blue.

 For us, cabling can be ruled out (for the most part). I know Bruce suggested 
disabling CDP on AP ports, but that's really not an option as we rely on that 
information- need all the help we can get keeping track of 2,000+ APs. When one 
loses its controller association but still has IP address, CDP can be used to 
find it to kill/restore power for remote reboot- needed on occasion.

I'm getting the sense that we are not alone in these power issues...

Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003
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Lee,

What version of controller code are you running? I'm sure you know this but 
just make sure the Cisco PoE is providing standard 802.3af, otherwise you have 
to check the "PreStandard" box. It's  interesting because we had a similar 
issues a while ago, but with injectors, as opposed to the switches. Usually 
unchecking all the options for the AP under "PoE ethernet settings" and 
restarting the AP would do the trick. Finally, check your cables and make sure 
there are no attenuation issues or a cut somewhere along the line.

Thanks

Hector Rios
Louisiana State University

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Have to lie to LWAPP APs about power injectors?

Wondering if anyone else experiences this. I'm working now to see if it is 
isolated to a single Catalyst switch or if it is more widespread. Frequently, 
we will get a report that a radio on an LWAPP AP is down. Sometimes the alarm 
is for insufficient drawn power, sometimes not- just radio down. Better than 
90% of the time, a simple AP reboot will not do any good- we have to lie to the 
controller that the AP has a PoE injector installed, even though the AP is on a 
switch. Usually the condition is onesy-twoesy- not every AP on a given switch 
(although this morning we saw that) and often happens on APs that are obviously 
not taxing a given switch's available PoE output.

I am opening a case as we see this enough to be of concern, but also am 
wondering if anyone else has experienced this in a given environment where 
LWAPP APs are powered by Cisco PoE switches?

Thanks-

Lee

Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003

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