I apologize in advance for the vendor post.. Our services team puts out
a pretty good design guide for dense auditoriums - and echo's some of
Gary's recommendations below.  It's relatively vendor-neutral and has
useful RF capacity planning information even if you're on
single-channel, or array based architectures.

http://www.arubanetworks.com/pdf/technology/DG_HighDensity_VRD.pdf

Best, Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Garry Peirce
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] High client density WiFi?

It's a tricky answer as I think every dense client situation is unique.
>From the start, if your client base supports it, using 802.11a will make
it easier given more channels to make use of.
500 clients also includes 500 potential problems for everyone else.

Although a special event, we do so every year as part of an conference
event in a  ~5000 sq ft concert hall.
The event brings K12 students from around the state and culminates with
an 'Uber' event in the concert hall where an online task is attempted.
It has an advantage of having a nearly homogenous client base
(Macbooks).

To summarize quickly off the top of my head from what I remember:  (I
can look to dig up/send more info if desired) This is a one time event
each year - we do not permanently mount the mentioned # of APs here as
it's not needed otherwise.

2009:
using 2.4 only (clients not 5G capable), I recall we achieved 650+
active users out of possible 800.
~20 Cisco 1240s (LWAPP) APs
We tried to control using a combination of directional and omnis -
conceded to just use omnis.
Note: one bad client NIC caused some havoc due to a continuous high duty
cycle which took a while to locate.

2010: 
Using 5G only significantly eased the process and we achieved ~850.
Special SSID used campus wide - open along with web policy and a single
local group account.
~23 APs in the concert hall  - Cisco 1142s and a single 3502 and a
single
1240 for any 2.4 only clients.
These ran under 7.0.98.0 WLC code on a 4404.
Most APs distributed under seats.
Omni antennas only.
802.11N enabled.
Included use of UNI-2e channels (clients were capable).
Locked RRM DCA changes in the concert hall once stability perceived.
Band-select enabled
Client DHCP req'd
 (Cisco TeleP on a 30' screen was fun too.)

2011:
For this year's event  in May we'll duplicate much of what worked last
year but using all 3502s.  
We'll aim to surpass last year's record and continue to improve
proactive management.


-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Palmer J.D.F.
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] High client density WiFi?

Hello,

I've been posed a tricky question by someone on a planning committee for
a new campus building.
"...is it actually feasible for 500 simultaneous WiFi connections in a
lecture room?"

I was hoping that there would be someone that might have experience of
answering (or providing a solution to) such a question who could offer
some input as to whether this is possible, or how close to the figure of
500 could we realistically achieve with the technology currently
available?

We are Cisco a site so ideally any solution would need to be one Cisco
is capable of delivering, but if there are other vendors that are proven
to be able to provide this kind of coverage to good effect, then I'd be
glad to hear of your experiences.

All the best,
Jezz Palmer.

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Jezz Palmer
Library & Information Services
Swansea University
Singleton Park
Swansea
SA2 8PP
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