We have in our internet docs for students that rogue wireless devices that interferes with the dorm's internet usage will be requested to shutdown or the student will lose internet rights for 30 days. Students seem to be more than willing to shut off their wireless router after they are made aware of the problem; they honestly don't have a clue about the effects of their personal wireless and the school's.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Justin Sipher <jsip...@skidmore.edu> wrote: > Hi all, > > I see Frank came across the article from our student newspaper. Bravo > as it was "published" late late night. Must be a Google-Alert or something > equivalent. :-) > > (btw that is how I saw it about 5am today also) > > The student (freshman) reporter did a decent job with the article but > with any situation like this they missed what I consider to be important > details that this group would appreciate. I worked had to help explain > things in layman's terms. Something we all strive to do. We had a > very-brief but noticeable DNS hiccup on Monday on our acad/admin LAN. As > you know know DNS is like air, all our network services need it to live. I > won't bother you with the DNS problem that is now resolved. That triggered > them to ask about other (but totally unrelated) network issues. > > The meat of the issue is our ResNet wifi service. We added Wifi in the > dorms last academic year. As the article states we have outsources ResNet > to our regional broadband provider (TW Cable) 6+ years ago. I'm a big fan > of this as the Internet bandwidth, 24x7 tech support, and infrastructure > support is as good if not better than we could do locally. I also think > this relates to IT "letting go" of things where we don't provide strategic > value. Residential networking on campus, is similar to that off-campus (if > you have off-campus student populations). The issue of outsourcing may be > somewhat of an aside for this list. > > Anyway, after testing their residential wifi solution (~ 2 years ago) we > decided to go with a hardware solution they have used in hotels, etc.. > It's an external antenna solution from Bel-Air. I know TWC (and frankly > us also) were not prepared for the extent of the demand. TWC was thinking > that if we have ~ 2k students in the dorms they would need to support up to > 1500 users/devices simultaneously. Before we went live we educated them to > the reality of today's 18-22 year old regarding # of wifi devices and the > "always on" nature of the users and/or their devices. We got them to use > 802.1x rather than browser redirect authentication to allow for usable > mobile access. > > TWC & Bel-Air are making progress technically. I think our biggest > current challenge is a cat and mouse situation with personal AP's. I'd say > we have 400+ personal AP's in the dorms. This is causing interference and > making thing worse. Is banning personal AP's the norm for most of you? We > are probably going down that path, but only after TWC adds a handful more > AP's to increase the chance of thing working as desired when we do that. > > BTW any of you see this? Does it sound familiar. > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/business/ipads-change-economics-and-speed-of-hotel-wi-fi-on-the-road.html?_r=1 > > Best, > ….Justin > ________________________ > Justin Sipher > Chief Technology Officer > Skidmore College > Saratoga Springs, NY > jsip...@skidmore.edu > 518-580-5909 > > * > * > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* "Parker, Ron" <ron.par...@brazosport.edu> > *Date:* November 10, 2011 1:07:39 PM EST > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* *Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] College deals with wireless issues* > *Reply-To:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > > It looks like the reply-to on the list isn't working right or > something. I posted a witty rejoinder to this message and it went only to > the original poster rather than the list. Frank has probably implemented an > e-mail sender filter as a result. Perhaps our gracious list admin could > check and see if I'm mistaken? > > I couldn't tell how much of what happened at Skidmore was a Time Warner > problem versus other issues. There seem to be a lot of things all going on > at the same time. I've heard my colleagues at other colleges talk about > challenges with outsourcing residence hall networking. One of them had what > sounds like a similar experience with a virus outbreak at the beginning of > this semester. Unfortunately, it was the college IT staff running around > fixing things and taking the blame rather than the vendor. > > Since this is the wireless list, I'll focus on the wireless issues. If you > ask me, this is the important quote: "'The original design of the wireless > system in the residence halls was to provide supplemental coverage to the > wired network in your rooms," said Sipher'" So a student is sitting there > with an unused 100 meg or gig wired port that would probably work fine but > the Skidmore folks are being sent running around with their hair on fire > because the outsourced wireless is overloaded. I just think user > expectations of wireless are unrealistic and we in IT are probably not > doing a good job of correcting that. I routinely tell people here to use a > wired connection if what they are doing is important. This is in spite of > the fact that we have a honking new wireless system with the latest and > greatest magic available. > > I am definitely in the club of "been there done that" along with the folks > at Skidmore. Sounds like they are trying to do a good job of communicating > about the situation and I've always found that goes a long way towards > making everyone happier. There is a lot of good information in that > article. > > -- > Ron Parker, Director of Information Technology, Brazosport College > Voice: (979) 230-3480 FAX: (979) 230-3111 > http://www.brazosport.edu > > This e-mail sent from my non-mobile, 64-bit, quad core, Windows 7 > workstation. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > > [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk > > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:02 AM > > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] College deals with wireless issues > > > > http://www.skidmorenews.com/news/information-technology-department-addresses > > -wireless-issues-1.2691856#.TrvkfkMUqdA > > > This article has some details but doesn't make it very clear if all the > > problems have been DNS or otherwise, but I thought there might be some > > people on this list who find this news article interesting. > > > I don't think Skidmore is on this list, as I don't meant to embarrass > > anyone. We've all "been there" in one circumstance or another. > > > Frank > > > ********** > > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Harry Rauch Network Analyst Eckerd College 4200 - 54th Ave So St. Petersburg, FL 33711 727-864-8318 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
