I've seen this come up a couple of times. So I hope you don't mind me asking, 
what would be the advantage of providing "very low total bandwidth" for your 
guests? 

Pete M.

-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian Helman
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:49 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSIDs, devices and guests

We rate shape the guest network to a very low total bandwidth and block all 
applications except email, web traffic and software/os update facilities. 

-Brian
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Caroline Owens [ow...@sju.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:34 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSIDs, devices and guests

The first thought that pops into my mind is that you might need to manage 
violation messages from the RIAA or other copyright-concerned organizations and 
what will your recourse be if you do not have security.  We use Audible Magic's 
solution to try to do our due diligence as far as government standards in a way 
that is mostly automatic, but there are always a few that slip through.  When 
we get the notices, we need to be able to find the device that caused them and 
we can do this on the wireless through the user authentication.

Somebody else might have a solution to this or another thought process 
(actually that would be great!).

But, that is ONE of our reasons right now.  The other is the cost of our 
Internet bandwidth.  We're in an urban environment and try to conserve our 
resources for our students, faculty, and staff.

Caroline Owens
Networking and Telecommunications
Saint Joseph's University
(610) 660-1613

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Williamson" <bob_william...@aw.org>
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:27:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSIDs, devices and guests




We are a small(ish) boarding school (K-12) with around 100 boarders. We are 
located in a residential neighborhood with a lot of homes very close to the 
school. Management wants an SSID for guests which does not require a password. 
My corporate reaction is "that is crazy". My secondary/new to academia reaction 
is "why not".



If the guests network is completely separated from the internal network, 
severely limited in bandwidth, web filtered, protocol/applications blocked etc. 
Who cares? The only potential issue I could see is web filtering can't stop 
everything.



Then there is the whole question of how to handle "personal devices" for staff 
and students. Any thought on that would be appreciated as well. Thinking of 
hidden SSID (simply to make it less confusing for users) with MAC address 
limiting and DPSK (via Ruckus).



Thank you for any suggestions. I am finding the transition from a corporate 
environment to academic, especially with boarding students, to be quite 
interesting to say the least,

Bob Williamson
Network Administrator
Annie Wright Schools | 827 N Tacoma Ave, Tacoma, WA 98403 | www.aw.org

D: +1.253.284.5465 | F: +1.253.572.3616 | bob_william...@aw.org



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