From my brief play with one the sleep/wake is an advertisement, and it was 
easier for me to power cycle it.

Thank you,

Lee Weers
Central College
IT Services
Assistant Director for Network Services
641-628-7675
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Garry Peirce
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:22 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support 
for instructors.

I apologize for duplicate posting, but it was suggested I rename the subject of 
my note below so that it fall under this related subject thread.

Re:  Cisco vlan select method – I note to be discovered by clients, “This means 
the Apple TV should be forced to announce itself by being put to sleep, and 
then woken up.”    Is this one time occurrence or would a user have to have mgt 
access to the AppleTV in order to put it to sleep/wake up to be able to 
discover it?
If it’s the advertisement needs this frequent kick, I unfortunately suspect it 
might be easier to simply power-cycle it.

Also, Eric, do you know if the Avahi reflector allows for any level of Bonjour 
service level filtering?

=====================
I’m in support of the collective request to help enable further operational 
flexibility, although also not sure Apple will feel enough pressure to assist.

To the first item:  ‘That Apple establish a way for  Apple TV's (and other 
Bonjour/Airplay enabled devices) be accessible across multiple IPv4 and IPv6 
sub-nets.”
Isn’t this item solved to a degree by wide area DNS-SD?
If not, I assume this is left open to solve by either making it use a routable 
mcast addr or by creating some non-standard solution.

Controls will be needed to make sense of all the advertised services and 
possibly for security/privacy reasons.
I would think navigating a large Bonjour enabled subnet for a production 
service must be an ugly exercise - nevermind if enabled to pass L2 boundaries.
Who remembers those IPX service filtering ACLs?  Request #2 might soon follow 
to network vendors to be able to support Bonjour service filtering.

For production services, wide area DNS-SD seems a better tool to me, as opposed 
to using the wild west of zeroconf end device advertisements or some special 
hardware solution.  We’ve trialed it (static entries) for printing and it seems 
to work well.
This leverages our existing DNS infrastructure, allows for control of the 
advertised entries, and a uniform naming convention making it easier to 
identify the service.
One could also opt to block 224.0.0.251 altogether, if there is concern about 
unnecessary device traffic.

So in tandem to supporting this request, I’d also be interested in anyone’s 
recap of their wide area DNS-SD (WAB) environment, the services being 
advertised , how it is scaling, and any major stumbling blocks.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]>
 On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 4:00 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

Please consider this- as we get to the point where we have an agreed on 
document, say by this Friday, and we find an online petition site to use where 
individuals can "sign" on in whatever form that takes before we close the 
signing window and present it to Apple- are each one of us able to do so on 
behalf of our institutions or organizations? If you need to seek permission, 
now is the time. If a CIO or Director is the only one allowed to make such 
public-facing declarations on behalf of your school/or org, it would be good to 
start working the notion. Ideally, no one would overstep their position by 
jumping on this worthy endeavor.

Lee H. Badman
Wireless Architect/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Adjunct Instructor, iSchool
Syracuse University
315 443-3003


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]>
 On Behalf Of Andy Voelker
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:44 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

That confuses me as well.  It is obviously built in to many other iOS devices 
(iPod Touch, iPad) and has been for some time.  Why the change?  I suspect it 
just due to the GUI difference.  If so, that’s easily fixable.

-- Andy Voelker
Manager of Student Computing in the Technology Commons
WCU Staff Senator
Western Carolina University
Check the status of your IT requests at any time at http://help.wcu.edu/ !

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]>
 On Behalf Of Voll, Toivo
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:28 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition

Also, for me, the lack of support for WPA2-Enterprise is a head-scratcher. If 
they go through the trouble of supporting the rest of the encryption schemes, 
and obviously support it on a bunch of their other products, why randomly leave 
it out of some products? I’d prioritize that a bit more, personally.

--
Toivo Voll
Network Engineer
Information Technology Communications
University of South Florida


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