For clarity- I'm going with a small private wireless network for this. -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Allen Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:07 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Tune&Play
Thank you all for your responses. I am going to follow Walter, Lee and Mark's advice to make this an all-wired implementation. -Scott On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Dan Brisson <dbris...@uvm.edu> wrote: > This came up for us over the summer. Initially I tried getting it to work > with the Bonjour gateway functionality in the WLCs. I had to do a packet > capture to see what service string the devices needed in order to connect to > the Tune&Play "hub", which was a Mac mini running the Tune&Play software. I > was able to find this string: _tnp-hub._tcp.local. I added that to the > WLCs in the mDNS section. The WLC then saw the hub, but the clients still > couldn't connect to it. > > At that point I requested our internal Apple folks contact Apple for some > help since google was not coming up with anything. Here's the response we > got from Apple, or more specifically Tune&Play since they are not > technically Apple: > > T&P broadcasts two Bonjour services: > - one for the Web UI > - one for the private service used by the Kiosks to communicate with the Hub > > A Bonjour service has a type and a name. Both are strings. So which one they > call "service string" is unknown to me. It's probably the type they're > interested in, but in case it's not, you'll find all the details below. > > The type is usually something like _xxxxx._tcp. > The service name is a free text (although limited to 63 characters) > > For T&P: > - the Web UI service being an HTTP service, its type is _http._tcp. Its name > will be Tune&Play Hub ([SERIAL] / [NAME]) > - the private service for communication with the Kiosks has a _tnp-hub._tcp. > type. And its name is Tune&Play Hub ([SERIAL]) > > Of course, you'll have to replace [SERIAL] by the Hub's machine serial, and > [NAME] by the Hub's machine name. > > Note that : > - the machine name will be truncated if the length of Tune&Play Hub > ([SERIAL] / [NAME]) exceeds 63 characters. > - for players only, the name is changed to Tune&Play Player instead of > Tune&Play Hub > > Now all that said, while I was waiting for Apple to respond, we ended up > just having the Mac Mini "hub" broadcast a WPA2/PSK SSID for all of the > Apple devices in our store. While I would have preferred to use our Campus > WLCs, the exposure was low enough that we didn't want to waste much more > time on it. > > If someone does get Bonjour gateway working though, I'd love to hear about > it. :) > > That's basically all of the info I have but if anyone has any more > questions, I'm happy to try to answer them. > > Thanks, > -dan > > Dan Brisson > Network Engineer > University of Vermont > (Ph) 802.656.8111 > dbris...@uvm.edu > > On 9/20/2013 9:32 PM, Mark Shetka wrote: > > Our school bookstore was asked to participate in a pilot for this last fall. > Our wireless network was not setup where we could guarantee all devices > would show up on the same subnet and Bonjour gateway (Cisco WLCs) did not > exist yet. We ended up wiring all the devices. They had to get USB > ethernet adapters for some of the Macbooks to make this go, but it worked > fine. > > -- > Mark Shetka > Information Technology Systems & Services > University of Minnesota - Duluth > (218) 726-7682 > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote: >> >> I'm dealing with it now. They are getting a small private network, period. >> No hoops being jumped through for the mother$hip that can't play well with >> others. >> >> Lee H. Badman >> Network Architect/Wireless TME >> ITS, Syracuse University >> 315.443.3003 >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >> [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Scott Allen >> [sc...@georgetown.edu] >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:00 PM >> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Tune&Play >> >> We just got this e-mail from Apple, anyone dealt with this yet? It >> isn't clear whether they're expecting to put Apple radios in the >> bookstore or not. I've asked for clarification >> -Scott >> >> [...] >> We're rolling out a software tool called Tune&Play to distribute >> content and software from Apple to our Campus Store locations. The >> stores are provided with a Mac mini that runs the software and >> downloads content from Apple, then distributes it over the network to >> the demo units in the store. Beyond including licenses for things like >> OS X Mavericks and iWork, the platform also maintains these demo units >> to wipe any customer generated content, ensuring a great experience >> for anyone in the store. >> >> As far as the network is concerned, I've listed a few requirements below: >> >> 1) All machines (demo kiosks and hub) must be connected to the same >> in-store network (wired or wireless) >> >> 2) The store's network must be capable of supporting Bonjour with >> multicasting so that these machines can see each other easily on the >> same subnet >> >> 3) The Tune&Play hub must be capable of accessing the below URLs to >> download content from Apple >> >> * devices.tuneandplay.net port 443 (https) >> * 0-hubs.tuneandplay.net port 443 (https) >> * 1-hubs.tuneandplay.net port 443 (https) >> * nirvana.tuneandplay.net port 443 (https) >> * tuneandplay-ak.apple.com port 443 (https) >> >> ********** >> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent >> Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> >> ********** >> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent >> Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Scott Allen Director, Network Services Georgetown University sc...@georgetown.edu mobile - 202-309-5739 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
