Our experience has been the opposite. For the most part we are able to effectively stop it. We don't get DMCA violations. A couple of days ago, one of our shapers went down though, and we routed around it, and are getting violations already. Any other time the shaper went down, we would start getting takedown notices pretty quickly. One of the reasons we are stopping it is to minimize the work of our security group which quarantines the machines, and does not allow them back on until the student brings the machine into the help center. They have to track the offense, and warn the student. When they get a takedown, they also have to consult the list of previous offenders as different actions are taken depending upon the amount of offenses. When packet shaping is not running, it adds to their workload significantly. We also do it due to H. R. 4137 which apparently requires that technology be implemented to mitigate copyright violations with the threat of possible loss of federal funding for those that don't comply. We have found that it cut down on bandwidth utilization significantly and probably saved us some bandwidth upgrades. Pete Morrissey From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:27 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AVC on Cisco Controllers- How are You Using, Any P2P enforcement?
:) I'm asking because we did at one time block/shape P2P, but it was impossible to stop it all, and it didn't result in fewer DMCA "Infringe-o-grams." What it did do is make it harder for the network operations folk to track down issues - was it the P2P shaping or something else? We stopped P2P Blocking/Shaping and instead adopted a policy for dealing with the infractions. With rare exception, when we send a first notice to the individual, that's the end of it. I know it works - the number of DMCA notices gets smaller every year. As for lawsuits, I've not seen a request to hold data, pending subpoena, etc. in years. Pretty much, the only DMCA notice I've seen in the last couple of years is a basic take down request. I think the industry as a whole decided the lawsuits weren't really effective. We put the freed up resources into increasing our Internet bandwidth. Jeff >>> On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 at 8:12 AM, in message >>> <943da0e70434ca499ad0088fb90eaade010a0...@suex10-mbx-05.ad.syr.edu<mailto:943da0e70434ca499ad0088fb90eaade010a0...@suex10-mbx-05.ad.syr.edu>>, >>> Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote: Just answer the question, buddy... :) Is policy. We do it other ways , wondering if others have explored/compared AVC's usefulness, stability, etc. Lee H. Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Jeffrey Sessler [j...@scrippscollege.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:06 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AVC on Cisco Controllers- How are You Using, Any P2P enforcement? What's driving the desire to block P2P? Jeff >>> On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 at 7:54 AM, in message >>> <943da0e70434ca499ad0088fb90eaade010a0...@suex10-mbx-05.ad.syr.edu<mailto:943da0e70434ca499ad0088fb90eaade010a0...@suex10-mbx-05.ad.syr.edu>>, >>> Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote: Hello Group, Wondering if Cisco's AVC is being used by anyone to block P2P as opposed to using a Procera/Palo Alto solution, and how it's working for you? Thanks- Lee Badman Lee H. Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
