Hmmm- maybe it was there since Protocol Pack 1 (if you've never updated them, 
is likely what you're on) and the gap in PI just added fog to the perception. I 
did add the BitTorrent-network to drop list, and have it allowed through our 
other line of defense in test. The 5508s are dropping it wonderfully. Is nice 
to see.

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I haven't updated any protocol packs separately.  I'm just using what's built 
into 7.6.130.0

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On Sep 17, 2014, at 11:09 AM, "Alan Nord" 
<an...@macalester.edu<mailto:an...@macalester.edu>> wrote:
I was looking to see if NBAR2 version 11 will work on WLC 7.6 - according to 
this compatibility chart it is only for WLC code 8.0.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/nbar2_prot_pack/11-0-0/b-nbar2-prot-pack-1100/b-nbar2-prot-pack-1100_chapter_010110.html

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Trent Hurt 
<trent.h...@louisville.edu<mailto:trent.h...@louisville.edu>> wrote:
It shows up in the wlc GUI either in the other category or in the file sharing 
category depending on wlc version and protocol pack.  For me it was introduced 
in 7.6 code

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On Sep 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, "Hector J Rios" 
<hr...@lsu.edu<mailto:hr...@lsu.edu>> wrote:
>From the WLC GUI. But I just checked our version for the product pack, and it 
>looks like we need to upgrade. I'll do that and confirm if I see it after.

-Hector


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Are saying you cant see it from PI, or from WLC GUI?

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Lee,

My security guys did the actual tests and from what I remember, it dropped the 
applications as soon as we enabled them.

BTW, I also do not see BittorrentNetwork. We are running 7.6.120.0

-H

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Hector,

Any idea if it took time for the 5508s to "learn" the traffic before dropping 
started? I did some testing from a single client and was able to pull down 
half-dozen torrents on a WLAN configured to block it with AVC before I restored 
our other defenses. AVC didn't touch simple BitTorrent for 5-10 minutes I tried 
it. Did verify configs...


Thanks,

Lee

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On Sep 12, 2014, at 5:53 PM, "Hector J Rios" 
<hr...@lsu.edu<mailto:hr...@lsu.edu>> wrote:
On our main SSID, we drop the applications listed below. Those were the ones 
our security group wanted us to drop. We have this on our WiSM2s which have 
about 800 WAPs each. We have not seen any issues related to high CPU so far. 
That's all the information I can give you. I hope this helps.

I wish I could actually give stats on how many times the controller has 
actually detected and dropped those applications, but the requires another toys 
we don't have money for.

Encryptep-emule
Bittorrent
Encrypted-bittorrent
Edonkey-static
Gnutella

Hector Rios
Louisiana State University

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Re-opening the topic of using controllers to classify and control traffic- in 
particular P2P. I'm doing analysis of our 5508 WLCs' ability to perhaps replace 
a dedicated appliance solution.

I see that we're not exactly 1 for 1 on services recognized by WLC compared to 
the dedicated appliances, but I'm more concerned with what might happen to a 
busy WLC with 500 APs and thousands of clients if we ask it to start dropping a 
couple of dozen P2P protocols. For those already doing this sort of thing- did 
CPU climb appreciably when you turned the drop function? Any issues noted? Our 
controllers tend to coast for CPU and memory, but I gotta ask.

Also, does anyone know if the 5760s can yet "control" or are they still limited 
to the AV in AVC? Any idea if 5760 protocol packs (or whatever the signatures 
are called on the 5760) are the same as that for the 5508 WLC?

Thanks-

Lee



Lee Badman
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ITS, Syracuse University
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