How about you get them to ignore the fact they can see each other and ramp the radios up some?
Thanks -- ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and misspelling. ________________________________ From: Stewart, Joe<mailto:joe.stew...@claremontmckenna.edu> Sent: 22/10/2014 18:21 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips? We recently renovated some of our dorm buildings. Prior to the renovation we only had about approximately 4 access points per building due to legacy/lack of infrastructure. We received tons of complaints as the demand for wireless continued to grow each year. We have tripled the amount of access points since I've been employed here. With this in mind we wanted to just blanket the dorms with access points (15-20 per dorm, Cisco 3602E & 3702E). One thing I've noticed with this deployment strategy is that the access points are transmitting between power levels 7 and 8. We were stuck with deploying all of our hardware above the drop ceiling in the hallway. I prefer to put them in the rooms but we they are all hard lid and we always like to keep them out of sight. Hallway deployments are not ideal with all the mechanical crap in the ceilings not to mention I have to break tiles to even get to my hardware which makes upgrades/replacements a complete headache. I'm noticing that the access points have more overlap with hallway deployments as they have more clear line of site with each other compared to being inside a room, which is why the power levels aren't changing much even when I'm turning off radios. We have had some students complain saying they can't maintain a stable connection and when they leave their room and enter the hallway all is fine. I'm in the process of evaluating things and turning access points off and trying to line things up staggered across several floors to bump up the power levels. In dorm rooms that haven't been renovated where students are experiencing lack of coverage I've been installing a temp access points inside the room mounted to the wall using a master lock and this has been working out great. This allows me to gain statistics and proceed with a plan moving forward. I'm also exploring the following Oberon enclosure for inside rooms: http://oberonwireless.com/WebDocs/Model1031-00_Spec_Sheet.pdf Joe Stewart Network Specialist II Claremont McKenna College -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips? Re: Vandalism, just charge the room members for the damaged AP. It is more difficult in the hallway installations. When we had damaged APs in hallway installations, we just assessed the damage costs to everyone on the dorm floor until a culprit was identified. I think, in our case, the offender was always identified. Our APs were mounted on the hallway walls, but that is no match for ball playing in the halls. I agree with Philippe's points also,. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer - Wireless Team IT Network Services (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Carter [mailto:tcar...@austincollege.edu] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:24 PM Subject: Re: WLAN design presentation tips? We're looking at revamping our "down the hall" model as well as we look to address 802.11ac (and replacing old Juniper wireless now that they're getting out of the wireless market). The biggest thing is the ability to pack APs more densely without signal interference than "down the hall". We have random spots and wireless "shadows" due to elevators, broom closets, etc. Unfortunately more APs means more cost, but we're weighing using a slightly lower model to help make up the cost. Vandalism is just as likely in the hallways as in the rooms. I think that if students know that is where their Internet access comes from, they're not likely to mess with it. Add to that (at least here) there are specific people to hold responsible for the vandalism rather than anyone walking down the hallway. Thomas Carter Network and Operations Manager Austin College 903-813-2564 -----Original Message----- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin McCormick Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:47 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN design presentation tips? We installed in the hallways due to cost, access for maintenance, and concern of vandalism in room. Coverage from hallway using our design was excellent. We designed the layout in Cisco Prime. Testing after install showed the wireless working very well in the rooms, even on 5 Ghz. Wireless just needs planning and design considerations for the location and environment. -- Kevin McCormick uTech Network Services Western Illinois University On 10/21/2014 12:47 PM, Williams, Matthew wrote: > I've just started here at Kent State and I'm facing an uphill battle > regarding updating our WLAN design. All APs are deployed in the hallways and > we're rolling out 802.11ac. We'd like to move the APs into the rooms, but > the mere suggestion has been met with resistance. I was just wondering if > any of you had any tips or suggestions for trying presenting the new model to > upper management. 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