That's good news to hear, we are hoping to upgrade  over the summer for next 
year.

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Christopher Michael 
Allison
Sent: Thursday, 6 November 2014 4:22 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Client Roaming (or, Actually, Lack Thereof)

Actually Jason we use in production at Southern Illinois University. As far as 
client seamlessly roaming from AP to AP not sure if it will help. 8.0 itself 
hasn't really been a burden for us to use.


CHRISTOPHER ALLISON
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-------- Original message --------
From: Jason Cook
Date:11/05/2014 19:07 (GMT-06:00)
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Client Roaming (or, Actually, Lack Thereof)

On that, has anyone been using 8.0 in production and how is it going? It's on 
our dev controller but we have had not time to play quite yet apart from 
upgrading and ensuring we can connect and use our main SSID's.
There's certainly some good features, but like many others am pretty concerned 
about the potential pains of the upgrade. Had enough issues in 7.6.120, and 
that wasn't even first release of 7.6

I note that MR1 is out in Beta,
https://supportforums.cisco.com/document/7721/wireless-lan-alerts


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-----Original Message-----
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John
Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2014 3:43 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Client Roaming (or, Actually, Lack Thereof)

I'm hearing the same thing. Maybe by Christmas break. But more probably by 
Spring break.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Bradley Williams 
<bwil...@clemson.edu<mailto:bwil...@clemson.edu<mailto:bwil...@clemson.edu%3cmailto:bwil...@clemson.edu>>>
 wrote:

I think that has always been a problem with Cisco on our campus.  I believe the 
last conversation I had with our SE about that said the 8.0 code had some 
improvements to client roaming addressing that.  I just wouldn't trust using 
8.0 code for another 6 months(my general wait time for bug fixes with Cisco)


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Mega(tm).  Please excuse grammatical errors.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Watters, John"
Date:11/04/2014 9:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU%3cmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Client Roaming (or, Actually, Lack Thereof)

I meant latching onto an AP not a controller.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:01 PM, Watters, John 
> <john.watt...@ua.edu<mailto:john.watt...@ua.edu<mailto:john.watt...@ua.edu%3cmailto:john.watt...@ua.edu>>>
>  wrote:
>
> We use both. Band select does seem to help push users to 5 GHz but doesn't 
> seem to have any effect on our problem with latching onto a controller and 
> not wanting to until after hell has frozen over.
>
> Load balancing does not seem to have an effect that we notice. Maybe I need 
> to look for a DEBUG that give me some insight into load balancing.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Kitri Waterman 
> <ki...@uoregon.edu<mailto:ki...@uoregon.edu<mailto:ki...@uoregon.edu%3cmailto:ki...@uoregon.edu>><mailto:ki...@uoregon.edu>>
>  wrote:
>
> Hey John,
>
> Is this with Load Balancing and/or Band Select enabled on your WISM2's?
>
> There was some positive talk here awhile back about how far both features 
> have come and also client support for them.
>
> We're just beginning to test both features in our shop.
>
> Kitri Waterman
> --
> Network Engineer (Wireless)
> Information Services
> University of Oregon
>
>
>
> On 11/4/14 1:22 PM, Watters, John wrote:
>
> We have a continuing problem with clients devices which refuse to move to an 
> AP that provides a much better signal. For example, students entering a 
> classroom typically have at least one WiFi device active when they enter the 
> room (e.g., their phone) and maybe more (e.g.,, tablet, laptop, etc). As has 
> been the case for years, the default client behavior seems to continue to be 
> to hold on to the original AP association until it becomes unusable, then 
> move to the best signal for where they currently are. I know that recent 
> Windows machines have settings to control how aggressive the radio is in 
> moving to a better AP. Surely UNIX-based machines can also do the same. We 
> encourage our laptop users to take advantage of a more aggressive setting. 
> And, we use the Cisco load-balancing stuff to also try to help.
>
> But, we still see the problem.
>
> Now, we are getting complaints about phones (iPhones & Android). users cannot 
> infinitely wander around a residence hall or Greek house without getting 
> small breaks in service (about 1 second or less) when they finally move from 
> one AP to one with a much stronger (and clearer) signal.
>
> Does anyone know anything else we can try to encourage client devices 
> (tablets, laptops, and phones) to change APs more aggressively?
>
> We are a Cisco shop using WiSM2 controllers (7.6.120.0 & 7.6.130.0) with 
> 5,000 APs of various models (1131, 1142, 2602, 2702, and a few 3502 & 3602s).
>
>
> Thanks for any help/advice you can offer.
>
>
> -jcw                                                                          
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>
> John Watters                           The University of Alabama
>                                                Office of Information 
> Technology
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