Keep telling yourself that Bruce. Sounds an awful lot like the situation they 
setup for Palm, and how did that work out? I think Jon Rubinstein was out in 18 
months? Maybe they’ll do better with Aruba, but I I’m skeptical given HP’s 
established track record.

Dell would have been a better fit as they were already reselling Aruba with an 
OEM deal. Then again, despite Aruba saying nothing would change with that 
relationship, Dell is now reselling Aerohive.

Aruba is a fine company, a couple of our consortium members have deployments, 
and I can say with 100% certainty, that neither Aruba or Cisco are perfect when 
it comes to their software. I could detail why I think one is better than the 
other, but since I’m a Cisco shop, it would likely come across as biased. :)

Jeff



From: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
on behalf of "bosbo...@liberty.edu<mailto:bosbo...@liberty.edu>"
Reply-To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>"
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 5:04 AM
To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>"
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 8.0.120.0 (MR2) on 8510- good, bad?

…except that Aruba is running the network unit, not HP controlling Aruba.
The Aruba company infrastructure is intact.

​​​​​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Infrastructure & Media Solutions

(434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Jeffrey D. Sessler [mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Cisco WLC 8.0.120.0 (MR2) on 8510- good, bad?

YES, HP has a good track record of doing great things with their acquisitions. 
Aruba could be another Palm. LOL

Just say no. ;)

Jeff

From: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
on behalf of "bosbo...@liberty.edu<mailto:bosbo...@liberty.edu>"
Reply-To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>"
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 4:27 AM
To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>"
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 8.0.120.0 (MR2) on 8510- good, bad?

Actually, I think you should say YES to upgrade to an Aruba wireless 
infrastructure.

We just moved our 24500+ APs to the latest 6.4 code with no issues.

​​​​​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Infrastructure & Media Solutions

(434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Lee H Badman [mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu]
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: Cisco WLC 8.0.120.0 (MR2) on 8510- good, bad?


​Thanks, Jess and Scott. It's pretty much always something on these WLCs, isn't 
it? The alerts with 4K APs would likely drive us batty and make PI hard to wade 
through the noise to real issues. I'm thinking no upgrade for a while...



-Lee


Lee H. Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of Jess Walczak <jwwalc...@gmail.com<mailto:jwwalc...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 7:25 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 8.0.120.0 (MR2) on 8510- good, bad?

Lee,

I am also seeing what Scott is seeing with the nearly instantaneous radio 
resets on the 5Ghz side.  It doesn't seem to affect any client experience, 
either, but it does generate a LOT of noise from a monitoring point of view.  
We have had a TAC open about this since February, but honestly haven't really 
done any hardcore troubleshooting of the issue once we ascertained that it was 
not affecting service in any real way.  In Prime, I have it emailing a 
distribution group, and I get tons and tons of emails from the same exact time, 
one reading that the AP went down, and the other one reading that it came up, 
like so:
__________________________________
PI has detected a change in one or more alarms of category AP and severity 
Critical in Virtual Domain ROOT-DOMAIN.
The new severity of the following items is Clear:

1. Message: '802.11a/n' interface of AP 'OWS458-01-1142' associated to 
controller 'UST-WLC8510 (140.209.13.70)' is up.
Failure Source: AP OWS458-01-1142, Interface 802.11a/n
__________________________________
PI has detected one or more alarms of category AP and severity Critical in 
Virtual Domain ROOT-DOMAIN for the following items:

1. Message: '802.11a/n' interface of AP 'OWS458-01-1142' associated to 
controller 'UST-WLC8510 (140.209.13.70)' is down. Reason: Unknown Failure 
Source: AP OWS458-01-1142, Interface 802.11a/n
__________________________________
In fact, here, the "all clear" message arrived before the one telling about the 
down event, and both are timestamped for 4:21PM.  :-)

Our environment is an 8510 HA pair running 8.0.120.0 for the larger campus with 
900 or so APs, and an 5508 HA pair running 8.0.120.0 for the smaller campus 
with under 200 APs, and Prime 2.2.  The AP models we have are 1242's, 1142's, 
2702's (both i's and e's), and 702W's.  Also, we are just now going live with 
ISE 1.4 as well.
Jess Walczak
Sr. Network Analyst
University of St. Thomas
Saint Paul, MN

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Scott McDermott 
<sco...@kcls.org<mailto:sco...@kcls.org>> wrote:
My environment is not on that scale, but I’m still seeing a lot of 5GHz radios 
cycling between up and down states followed by a reset, then it will come back 
up. Might happen again later, might not. Seems to be happening on all models.

--
Scott McDermott
Network & System Administrator
King County Library System

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Lee 
H Badman
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Date: Monday, July 27, 2015 at 06:03
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>"
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC 8.0.120.0 (MR2) on 8510- good, bad?

Hello to the group- for those of you who have moved to the Cisco-recommended 
8.0.120.0 code, have you found any issues? Particularly big 8510 environments 
with thousands of APs per controller doing 802.1x/WPA2.

Thanks-

Lee

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