Fair questions. Main thing is to only allow games, etc- disallow smart devices 
that ought to be using secure network. And... To make sure that only legit 
campus users are adding the devices because we bleed out into lots of 
neighborhoods.

Not PPSK option outside of Aerohive.

Lee



On Mar 1, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Jeffrey D. Sessler 
<j...@scrippscollege.edu<mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu>> wrote:

Playing devils advocate, I have to ask the opposite, which is why put up a 
barrier in the first place to the student on-boarding their device(s)? Is there 
sufficient history to suggest that having to register/on-board the device has a 
positive impact on the operation of the network? Should the goal be to have the 
experience be as close to what they had at home?

I continue to focus on BYOD and IoT, where implementing something like PPSK 
(personal pre-shared key) is probably "good enough." I imagine a state where 
the student gets their key via the student portal and then uses it for all of 
their devices.

Jeff

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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches?

Hi Everyone,

Not looking for a lot of input on all of the things you CAN do- just asking a 
focused question for those that are doing it.

We're piloting the ability for students to self-register games, TVs, Roku, etc. 
but am astounded at how hard some devices are to find MAC addresses for from 
the user side. Amazon Echo is notorious, also fighting with a Roku 2. No 
labels, not easy to find in menu. Sure, you can find all of this on APs, but 
that isn't "self-service" for self-registration.

Anyone have thoughts, comments, scars, suggestions? I know Clearpass and ISE 
can fingerprint, but I'm finding that's far from accurate at times, and again- 
doesn't help with "register YOUR device by MAC" for users that can't see what 
network admins use.

-Lee Badman

Lee H. Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
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