I am not saying Aruba is perfect.

We have had many show-stopping bugs over the years, but we share these with 
Aruba support who get them resolved, many times with custom builds so we can 
test the fix before it is released.

We did not see anywhere that sort of responsiveness from Cisco wireless support 
when we had our Cisco fat APs. Our experience, along with this forum traffic 
debating bugs in various Cisco versions played a part in us choosing another 
vendor.
​​​​​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless

(434) 592-4229

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From: Jeffrey D. Sessler [mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session summary

Bruce,

While Aruba is #2, their market share and installed base is but a tiny fraction 
of Cisco’s, so it stands to reason that the conversation here is going to be 
predominantly Cisco. If you are a customer of the #1 vendor you’ll likely be 
more open to discussing the pain points given management is unlikely to be 
concerned. If you have something else, then it may call into question the 
decision to go that direction. Right or wrong, that’s just how it sees to work.

So sure, I don’t see Aruba customers debating their pain points here, but I do 
see Aruba cheerleading – especially from you.

I’m in a fortunate position of having both in my consortium, and the Aruba folk 
have had to deal with a number of show stopping bugs over the years. So It’s 
not unique to Cisco, but the Cisco people seem more open to sharing – which to 
me is a good thing.

Jeff

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summary

Brian,

Thank you for offending Lee.

This is a WLAN list, not a *Cisco* WLAN list.

Although there are many Aruba customers here, you do not see us debating the 
latest bugs, etc.  Perhaps that is a compliment to Aruba’s Engineering & TAC 
Support teams.

​​​​​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless

(434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Brian Helman [mailto:bhel...@salemstate.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 2:46 PM
Subject: NERCOMP Conference -- Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session summary

(cross-posted to NETMAN group)

As promised, here is a summary of the combined Wireless-LAN/NETMAN session from 
the NERCOMP Conference last week.  In preparation for these sessions, I review 
the hot topics (based purely on number of comments) from the listservs that 
occurred over the previous year.  I keep a running PowerPoint on these topics 
(1 slide per year).  I’m happy to post that PowerPoint, if there is a good 
place to do it.   I believe DropBox has a bandwidth cap, so I’d prefer not to 
distribute that way.   Also, I tend to avoid vendor-specific topics .. so you 
won’t see the billions of discussions on Cisco WAPs (sorry Lee).

This year I tried to mix up the conversation a bit and gave a quick (10 minute) 
demonstration of the JDSU OLP-820p fiber scope/power meter.   In the session I 
said I thought it was around $7,000 (give or take).  I see it on Amazon for 
$5,132.  While I don’t want to recommend specific products, I would recommend 
acquiring this unit or another that performs the same core functions.  When I 
demo’d my JDSU with an old multimode ST connection we recently replaced, the 
comment “you still had light passing through that!?” says a lot.

Overall, the session went well.  There were 17 people (a good number for a 
small conference!) from 15 different institutions.

Hot topics:

·        NAC just doesn’t want to go away.

·        There are still a large number of people who don’t know these lists 
exist

·        We did discuss vendors on the lists as well as other means of 
communication between members

·        Gaming networks

·        And wireless networking did dominate the discussions.  Interestingly, 
of the 15 institutions, TEN (I had to type that to stress the point) were Aruba 
shops and only 1 Cisco shop.  I’d have lost the farm on that bet.

I hope both of these groups gained some members from the session.  If I left 
out any topics, let me know!

I will be at the Miami Connect next week.  If you’ll be there and would like to 
talk Wireless/Networking, stop by the sessions or send me an email.  I’m hoping 
to drop anchor in a local bar one night.  If anyone has recommendations, let me 
know.  I’d like to get an email out to these lists.  We did this at the annual 
conference a couple nights and it was a lot of fun.

Thanks,
Brian


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