Tim,

  “subnet based on policy”?  I have a pool of 6 vlans of which devices get
randomly assigned to one of the 6 subnets.   How does Airgoup know which
subnets the two pairing devices are in?  I thought it required a broadcast
to find each other.  I would think that would require a broadcast going out
to all 6 vlans.    I am not quite sure what you mean by “policy”.

  I should note that all Bonjour devices work fine.  I just can’t get
Chromecast and other peering devices to work.  And I have enabled just
about everything under AirGroup at one point or another.  If Chromecast
should peer across multiple vlan (subnets), then I may need to contact tech
support again.   I keep wondering what I am missing.

 Tim



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Yes, AirGroup sends the mDNS or SSDP advertisement out onto the subnet
where the user is based on policy.





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Tim,

So even if the two peering devices are on two different subnets, it should
still work?

Tim



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Tim,



Chromecast will work with the AirGroup service Googlecast enabled and with
drop broadcast/multicast enabled on the VAP.



This can work in large subnets or multiple smaller subnets.



Tim

Aruba ClearPass Team



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Jon

   We do have the AirGroup functionality enabled.  But I also have a pool
of 6 /23 vlans.  So my first question is did you set up an independent SSID
for L2 devices to register?   Did you use one vlan (subnet)?  What size?
I am curious about the details to allow broadcast, but I am guessing I can
ask that of an Aruba engineer if I need.  The ability to allow broadcast
seems critical to getting Chromecast to work.

Tim



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Tim,



The AirGroup functionality in Aruba ClearPass is probably what you're
looking for.  You can set it up so that when students register their
devices, they can choose whether those devices are allowed to use
broadcast/multicast to talk to their other devices, or even allow sharing
to other users (potentially, depending on your setup).



We've seen it work fairly well, although sometimes a chromecast or
something will freak out and lose connectivity briefly with devices that
it's supposed to be allowed to talk to.



Jon Miller

Network Analyst

Franklin and Marshall College



Jonathan Miller

Network Analyst

Franklin and Marshall College



On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Tim Tyler <ty...@beloit.edu> wrote:



Wireless Lan members,

We use Aruba Networks for our wireless solution and we do have many L2
devices working that leverage Bonjour, etc.  We simply do mac address
authentication for them.   Most L2 devices work fine.    My big goal is to
find out the different methods that some of you might be using to support
the most difficult L2 devices such as Chromecast, Sonos speakers, and other
L2 devices that need to peer with another device in order to work.   These
type of devices ultimately need to broadcast to see each other.  Chromecast
generally needs to broadcast to the phone app so that the phone app can see
it and establish a connection with one another.   If you create another
SSID for it, what are the key factors in making it work?

Back in the earlier Fall, a number of you stated that you were using /16
subnets or very large subnets so that you only needed one subnet for your
residential wireless network.   So the question I have is did you do this
to better support L2 devices?   If so, do you allow broadcasts on your
large wireless subnet or did you simply do one /16 subnet to simplify the
administration of your wireless network?

Bottom line, how are some of you supporting L2 devices that allow
Chromecast and other peering L2 devices to work?





Tim Tyler

Network Engineer

Beloit College



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