Your replies have addressed what I was asking wrt security concerns. Thanks
for the detail.

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:34 AM Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote:

> We don’t see a lot of bad coming out of the gadgets. If a laptop lands on
> that network- which is still security monitored- and does something bad,
> odds are extremely high that the device has also been used on the secure
> network because that’s where anything to do with campus is done. Our logs
> are rich, so it’s easy to correlate same device on multiple networks. If
> “bad” happens and we truly can’t find them period in logs for identity,
>  the degree of “bad” drives what happens next. But we have worked through
> every scenario we could think of and derived procedural answers that work
> for us.
>
>
>
> -Lee
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Bucklaew, Jerry
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:22 AM
>
>
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Dorm Wireless Authentication
>
>
>
> How do you track them down when they do something bad?
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Lee H Badman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:18 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Dorm Wireless Authentication
>
>
>
> Absolutely no device restrictions. No preshare. Get on and go. But zero
> campus access, that requires using the authenticated network.
>
>
>
> *Lee Badman* | Network Architect
>
> Adjunct Instructor | CWNE #200
> Information Technology Services
> 206 Machinery Hall
> 120 Smith Drive
> Syracuse, New York 13244
>
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> *e* lhbad...@syr.edu *w* its.syr.edu
>
> *SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY*
> syr.edu
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Carter
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:04 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Dorm Wireless Authentication
>
>
>
> Is it restricted to only “gadgets and games”, or is it used for laptops as
> well? A majority of the services our students use are Internet facing also,
> so Internet-only access would still give them access to the services they
> need.
>
>
>
> I assume there is an authenticated SSID also?
>
> *Thomas Carter*
> Network & Operations Manager / IT
>
> *Austin College*
> 900 North Grand Avenue
> Sherman, TX 75090
>
> Phone: 903-813-2564 <(903)%20813-2564>
> www.austincollege.edu
>
> [image: image001.gif]
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Lee H Badman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2017 8:23 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Dorm Wireless Authentication
>
>
>
> After kicking tires on leading classification engines and weighing
> solution dollars and support costs, we opted to pilot a wide open "gadget
> and games" SSID in the dorms that only have Internet access for all the
> oddballs. With almost a full year in, it's been very well used and received
> and we've been able to answer all of our own security questions that anyone
> would be contemplating. I think we'll be moving forward with this model.
>
> Lee Badman (mobile)
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:48 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) <
> bosbo...@liberty.edu> wrote:
>
> Here is another vote for ClearPass with Aruba wireless.
>
>
>
> When an Apple TV is registered, it is also registered as an AirGroup
> personal device so the owner’s 802.1X Apple device can use AirPlay to
> display content on the device. We also use Aruba’s Dynamic Multicast
> Optimization to provide multicast IPTV over wireless.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Bruce Osborne*
>
> *Senior Network Engineer*
>
> *Network Operations - Wireless*
>
>  *(434) 592-4229 <(434)%20592-4229>*
>
> *LIBERTY UNIVERSITY*
>
> *Training Champions for Christ since 1971*
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Spellman [mailto:rsp...@bates.edu <rsp...@bates.edu>]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 9:33 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Dorm Wireless Authentication
>
>
>
> We use Aruba Clearpass, and have two SSID's on campus, one which is
> 802.1X, and the other open, doing MAC based authentication.  Clearpass
> allows users to register their own devices for MAC authentication by
> logging into the Clearpass guest portal.  Students can register devices for
> a year, while guests can register devices for 2 days.
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> Robert Spellman
>
> Bates College
>
> Information and Library Services
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Chris Brezil <brez...@newschool.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
> We are planning a larger scale roll out of wireless in our dorms.
> Currently we mainly just cover some of the common areas and students for
> the most part bring in their own routers. As most folks can appreciate,
> this has caused years of technical problems and is also not seen as great
> customer service.
>
> On our main campus wifi, we have people authenticate using 802.1x radius
> authentication using their university username and password. We have some
> concerns about doing this in the dormitories however. We know that students
> bring all sorts of consumer grade devices that require network access into
> their rooms, such as Apple TV, Amazon Echos, etc. Many of these devices
> will not work with username and password authentication and we are not
> looking to Mac exclude these devices on the network, given the overhead of
> setting this up. So we are looking possibly at doing WPA Personal with a
> passphrase that would be given to students.
>
> What are others doing? Has this come up as an issue for any of you?
>
> Best,
>
> Chris
>
>
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