It does suck, but it’s the cost of offering wireless service these days. My justification would be looking at my opex spend to legislate/track down/remove/block/etc these unwanted devices on an ongoing/yearly basis. Take that cost over the lifetime of the APs. If it’s greater than the capex spend of just installing additional APs, then it should be a no-brainer for a financial person.
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 12:06 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls You’re correct, but it just sucks that we now have to justify a 30+% increase in capital spent on wireless infrastructure for something that (at least according to those who manage the budgets) worked fine 5 years ago, AKA why do you need to put 50 APs in a building that once had 30? Thomas Carter Network & Operations Manager / IT Austin College 900 North Grand Avenue Sherman, TX 75090 Phone: 903-813-2564 www.austincollege.edu<http://www.austincollege.edu/> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 11:13 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls If you move your design planning toward dense 5GHz and designate 2.4 as a legacy wasteland, these devices have little impact. Even if these devices more toward 5GHz, the abundance of channels coupled with low signal propagation and vendor channel management e.g. DCA in Cisco speak, greatly enhance coexistence. Since you mention Cisco, use of CleanAir equipped APs in residence halls (even in small quantities) provide significant RF visibility, and you’ll know exactly what’s out there and impacting your environment. That’s a long way of saying you will never legislate these devices out of existence, and it’s far better to invest resources in technology that help with coexistence vs expending energy on confiscating/banning them. Jeff From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of "Davis, Steve" <sda...@lockhaven.edu<mailto:sda...@lockhaven.edu>> Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 8:06 AM To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless printers and other devices in residence halls I wanted to get an idea how everyone is handling students bringing in all types of wireless devices, which are basically access points. We have so many printers, TVs, Roku devices, game systems and who knows what else out there in the student rooms and these devices are causing issues with our campus wireless network. Do you allow these devices on your network? If not, how do you prevent the students from having them? I have Cisco wireless controllers where I can block rogue APs but that keeps the APs which are containing the rogue AP from servicing the clients and I don’t have dense enough coverage to be able to do this for every rogue device. Thanks in advance -Steve Steve Davis | Network Manager Department of Technology Infrastructure Lock Haven University 519 Robinson Hall 401 North Fairview Street, Lock Haven, PA 17745 Phone: 570-484-2290 | sda...@lockhaven.edu<mailto:sda...@lockhaven.edu> | www.lockhaven.edu<http://www.lockhaven.edu/> Connect with us: Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/LockHavenUniv/> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/LockHavenUniv> | YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/user/LHU1870> ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
