When we initially deployed wireless campus-wide, we evaluated Aruba against 
BlueSocket; at the time, BlueSocket won out easily.  We gave Cisco a shot a few 
years ago when we were looking to do a major upgrade/refresh (because we are an 
all-Cisco shop), but they blew the POC, and lost the project.  We stayed with 
BlueSocket and moved to their new offering and haven't looked back.  BlueSocket 
was absorbed several years ago by Adtran.  Overall, we have been very pleased 
with the product line and performance.  They are also quite affordable - 
relatively speaking.  They have cloud and VMware controller options.  The GUI 
is pleasant, and it's very user-friendly to manage.  We have 530+ access points 
running in "flex-mode". 

 

We've had few to no bugs.  They've stepped up whenever needed.

 

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Sr. Network & Infrastructure Engineer
School of Visual Arts
136 W 21st St., 8th Floor
New York, NY, 10011
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others can’t” - Jerry Rice

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Stephen Belcher 
<steve.belc...@mail.wvu.edu>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 11:48
To: <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who has transitioned away from Aruba, and why?

 

Cisco shop here with around 5300 APs. We are looking to get away from Cisco 
because of bugs and poor support. I would be happy to go in more detail 
off-line. 

 

Our fist choice is Mist. They are doing some amazing things but the price is a 
premium and we may not be able to afford them. 

 

Our second choice was Extreme (we have one small site with Extreme wireless) 
but, we just found out yesterday that with the acquisition of AeroHive, all new 
wireless will be based on their AeroHive HiveManager cloud platform rebranded 
to ExtremeCloud IQ. We are doing a deeper technical dive for that platform to 
understand the new offering. That being said, does anyone use AeroHive in a 
large deployment?

 

Maybe it’s just a problem with Wi-Fi in general…

 

Steve

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Michael Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:27 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who has transitioned away from Aruba, and why?

 

While not an answer to your request, we are also starting to look into this 
possibility for
the same reasons.  While we only have about 500 515s deployed with WiFi6 
extensions
disabled, we haven't seen tickets to this extent but we also don't have any 
greenfield 
515-only deployments.

We will be looking at Mist, being a heavy Juniper shop, but also Cisco as some 
existing
collaborations may lead to cost effective transitions..


On 1/9/20 11:15 AM, Turner, Ryan H wrote:

All:

 

We’ve been an Aruba shop for a very long time and have around 10,000 access 
points.  While every relationship with vendors have their ups and downs, my 
frustration with the Aruba is finally peaking to the point that I am 
considering making the enormous move to choose a different vendor.  The biggest 
reason is with the 8.X code train, and bugs that we just don’t consider 
appropriate to use in production.  It has been one thing after the other, and 
my extremely talented and qualified Network Architect (Keith Miller) might as 
well be on the Aruba payroll as much work as he has been doing for them to 
solve bugs.  Just when we think we have one fixed, another one crops up.

 

The big one as of late is with 515s running 8.5 code train.  We have them 
deployed in one of our IT buildings.  Periodically, people that are connected 
to these APs in the 5G band will stop working.  To the user, they are browsing 
a site, then it becomes unresponsive.  If they are on their phone, they will 
disconnect from wifi and everything works fine on cell.  Nothing makes an 
802.11 network look worse than switching to cell and seeing a problem resolve.  
Normally, if the users disconnect then reconnect, their problems will go ahead 
(but I think they end up connecting in the 2.4G band).   We’ve been working on 
this problem with them for months.  It always seems as though we have to prove 
there is a real issue.  I’m fed up with it.  We are a sophisticated shop.  If 
we have a problem, 9 times out of 10 when we bring it to the vendor, it is a 
real problem.  I’m extra frustrated that due to issues we’ve seen in ResNet on 
the 8.3X train that we don’t want to abandon our 6 train on main campus.  To 
Aruba’s credit, we purchased around 1,000 515s last year (I think around 
February).  When they could not get good code to support them on, Aruba bought 
back half of them.  I asked for them to buy back half because I thought for 
sure with the 315s that we would have instead, the issues would be fixed by the 
time the 315s ran out.  Not looking to be the case.

 

So, with that rant over, we are seriously considering looking to move away from 
Aruba (unless they get their act together really soon).  There are other bugs 
I’m not even mentioning here.  For those of you that made the switch to another 
vendor, I would be curious how long the honeymoon lasted, what were your 
motivators, and were you happy with the overall results?  Of course, this is a 
great opportunity to plug your vendor.  As I see it, we have 3 choices….  
Something from Cisco (we had Cisco long ago and dumped them for bugs), 
something from Extreme (we are a huge Extreme shop so this makes sense), 
something from Juniper (Mist).

 

Thanks,

Ryan Turner

Head of Networking

The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

+1 919 445 0113 Office

+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

r...@unc.edu

 

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