Darn you Philippe.  I was determined to get through the day without being had.  
Better luck next year I guess.

Chuck

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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

Ok, Full Disclosure ... I was in shortage of April 1st fun :)


AFO, April's Fools Officer :)




On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Spurgeon, Charles E 
<c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu>> wrote:

IMHO, Exposure Notification Express is the droid to look for.
https://screenrant.com/apple-google-coronavirus-exposure-notifications-explained/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fscreenrant.com%2Fapple-google-coronavirus-exposure-notifications-explained%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077918996973%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=JQtCc%2FhalQRDZTAP21eV6J91McYfIvs%2B154FQldsEmI%3D&reserved=0>

It has been adopted by a number state heath depts in the US, but there needs to 
be more.
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This kind of contact tracing appears to be an important component when it comes 
to long term management of COVID, its variants, and the follow-on viruses that 
are inevitable.
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We had the same discussions and the same conclusion, wifi is not good for this. 
  One reason is  you can't trust the result.  You can't say a person was in a 
certain building because they may have forgot their phone, not registered yet.  
 You can't say a person was not in a building because many devices registered 
to a person are stationary and connect even when the person is not there.  So 
any data you pull is inconclusive at best.

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I don't believe Wi-Fi is a good technology for this. It's nice when you can 
reuse existing overhead, but I don't think 2.4/5/6 radio is the answer. You're 
just begging for false positives.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 2:47 PM Seth Bean 
<seth.b...@mcla.edu<mailto:seth.b...@mcla.edu>> wrote:
We ducked this by explaining our wireless design was created for coverage, not 
security/triangulation, which is true.  Many of our buildings do not have the 
capability to do triagulation because of AP positions.  We didn't even get into 
the privacy item, which was honestly a relief.

Seth Bean
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APA Union Chapter President
Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts
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Several vendors are trying to monetize COVID... the Wi-Fi part (in my opinion) 
falls apart fairly quickly in spots when you start talking it through for 
contact tracing- and usually to do it you may have to buy things you don't have 
to round out the system.

FWIW.

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All,

Has anyone else been approached by AFCOTRA?
They have developed an algorithm to map Wireless users and Covid Contamination.
They want to use Wi-Fi logs to establish mapping of Covid Cross Contamination 
on campus.
(I guess linking MAC address to Wi-Fi triangulation)

Neat Idea!

Philippe

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