Darn you Philippe. I was determined to get through the day without being had. Better luck next year I guess.
Chuck From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 5:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid Ok, Full Disclosure ... I was in shortage of April 1st fun :) AFO, April's Fools Officer :) On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Spurgeon, Charles E <c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:c.spurg...@austin.utexas.edu>> wrote: IMHO, Exposure Notification Express is the droid to look for. https://screenrant.com/apple-google-coronavirus-exposure-notifications-explained/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fscreenrant.com%2Fapple-google-coronavirus-exposure-notifications-explained%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077918996973%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=JQtCc%2FhalQRDZTAP21eV6J91McYfIvs%2B154FQldsEmI%3D&reserved=0> It has been adopted by a number state heath depts in the US, but there needs to be more. https://9to5mac.com/2021/01/16/covid-19-exposure-notification-api-states/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F9to5mac.com%2F2021%2F01%2F16%2Fcovid-19-exposure-notification-api-states%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919006971%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=H2BPdJUVMlTD8OiTB9zZimV4rHBJnWLTIJJrvMcc2F4%3D&reserved=0> This kind of contact tracing appears to be an important component when it comes to long term management of COVID, its variants, and the follow-on viruses that are inevitable. https://www.wired.com/story/larry-brilliant-herd-immunity-end-of-pandemic/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wired.com%2Fstory%2Flarry-brilliant-herd-immunity-end-of-pandemic%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919016966%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=NZXGTWlacCRyaWfO9EbnYrBsn%2FZsMzd1h7uePmlKlNM%3D&reserved=0> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Jerry Bucklaew Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:09 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid We had the same discussions and the same conclusion, wifi is not good for this. One reason is you can't trust the result. You can't say a person was in a certain building because they may have forgot their phone, not registered yet. You can't say a person was not in a building because many devices registered to a person are stationary and connect even when the person is not there. So any data you pull is inconclusive at best. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Dan Lauing Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:53 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid I don't believe Wi-Fi is a good technology for this. It's nice when you can reuse existing overhead, but I don't think 2.4/5/6 radio is the answer. You're just begging for false positives. On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 2:47 PM Seth Bean <seth.b...@mcla.edu<mailto:seth.b...@mcla.edu>> wrote: We ducked this by explaining our wireless design was created for coverage, not security/triangulation, which is true. Many of our buildings do not have the capability to do triagulation because of AP positions. We didn't even get into the privacy item, which was honestly a relief. Seth Bean Administrator of Networks and Telecommunications APA Union Chapter President Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts 413.662.5022 413.663.1276 375 Church Street North Adams, MA 01247 "National Top Ten Public Liberal Arts College" 2020-2021 US News & World Report ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Lee H Badman <000000db5b77bd95-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:000000db5b77bd95-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu>> Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:33 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid CAUTION: This email originated from outside of MCLA. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Several vendors are trying to monetize COVID... the Wi-Fi part (in my opinion) falls apart fairly quickly in spots when you start talking it through for contact tracing- and usually to do it you may have to buy things you don't have to round out the system. FWIW. Lee Badman | Network Architect (CWNE#200) Information Technology Services (NDD Group) 206 Machinery Hall 120 Smith Drive Syracuse, New York 13244 t 315.443.3003 e lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu> w its.syr.edu<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fits.syr.edu%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919016966%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=2fj5M6iY%2Bv8EXyV%2Bs0HRHdGW4Q%2FPrsx9zhL134x%2FXFQ%3D&reserved=0> Campus Wireless Policy: https://answers.syr.edu/display/network/Wireless+Network+and+Systems<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fanswers.syr.edu%2Fdisplay%2Fnetwork%2FWireless%2BNetwork%2Band%2BSystems&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919026962%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=IJ4pdQxj%2FcriRP0iF7OTjy2MdzEEue0xxRDuIwgbXxs%3D&reserved=0> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY syr.edu<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsyr.edu%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919026962%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=%2FlqnzWdZSNgrHBxrGugxqBtY%2FgceFCnRlMpmcmbGAmE%3D&reserved=0> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:29 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid All, Has anyone else been approached by AFCOTRA? They have developed an algorithm to map Wireless users and Covid Contamination. They want to use Wi-Fi logs to establish mapping of Covid Cross Contamination on campus. (I guess linking MAC address to Wi-Fi triangulation) Neat Idea! Philippe Philippe Hanset, AFO www.anyroam.net<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.anyroam.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919036952%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=EkVuNMIFVycBsyWqB3r9t2%2FSP4Se7zvSYqisGLvAnlQ%3D&reserved=0> ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fcommunity&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919036952%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=pdpTkuORyNQTWo0tanwzKiZLIHiicOPpxhlU4Sj7bDc%3D&reserved=0> ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fcommunity&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919046947%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=6F3pNXaB7lE5r2%2BdyZmwPrAd%2FR2hRfAWjtS6KT1IGwg%3D&reserved=0> ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fcommunity&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919046947%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=6F3pNXaB7lE5r2%2BdyZmwPrAd%2FR2hRfAWjtS6KT1IGwg%3D&reserved=0> -- <~WRD0000.jpg> dan b. lauing ii | CWNE #402 Wireless Network Engineer Mississippi College CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: This communication may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or if you are not authorized to receive this communication, please notify and return the message to the sender, then delete this communication including any attachments. Unauthorized reviewing, forwarding, copying, distributing or using this information is strictly prohibited. ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fcommunity&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919056940%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=0uRZWD4mMP6%2FxKrum1rZVpVaPSuz9GKhahmm%2B8l3Lgs%3D&reserved=0> This message is from an external sender. Learn more about why this matters.<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fut.service-now.com%2Fsp%3Fid%3Dkb_article%26number%3DKB0011401&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919066933%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=xgXHAMJVIQe8q09DYGrN9N7S959pU4Rf%2BwH6acfLgRE%3D&reserved=0> ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fcommunity&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919066933%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=jaBOaekRCceyH2Vr3NUf1usMTJ2zo0kLqC3YDgK%2Bd7Y%3D&reserved=0> ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fcommunity&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919076929%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=nTfM57HqvvIKBG2lO6eHaHrJIvohfM46C1QoCOMn4EI%3D&reserved=0> ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.educause.edu%2Fcommunity&data=04%7C01%7Ccae104%40PSU.EDU%7C2201d477952b44b4a76b08d8f5518df0%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637529077919076929%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0&sdata=nTfM57HqvvIKBG2lO6eHaHrJIvohfM46C1QoCOMn4EI%3D&reserved=0> ********** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community