Yes.  I meant to reply to this.  They came out with a new release that pretty 
much brought it back to where it was, but there is still some work to do to 
help the folks get to the profile section and install the profile.  But at 
least the process is now tolerable.  They turn things around very quickly at 
SecureW2.

Ryan

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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Matt Mills
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 12:52 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OSX | Big Sur | EAP-TLS Apocalypse

It looks like the most recent SW2 update is supposed to help with password 
prompts.

macOS Big Sur - Multiple Password Prompts Displayed During Onboarding

During the onboarding process in Big Sur, multiple password prompts were 
observed due to multiple certificates in the Network Profile. The keychain 
password prompts have been reduced for an improved user experience.


MATT MILLS
Senior Wireless Network Engineer
UW-IT: Wireless Design & Architecture
Pronouns: he / him / his
Desk: 206.685.8456




From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of Turner, Ryan H 
<rhtur...@email.unc.edu<mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>>
Date: Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 12:54 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OSX | Big Sur | EAP-TLS Apocalypse
Funny thing is that I have heard nothing about this until the last week.  
Haven’t been on campus.  I don’t know what changed or it was a recent patch 
level.  I had to update a laptop I don’t normally use to see for myself.
Ryan Turner
Head of Networking, ITS
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile
+1 919 445 0113 Office

On Jun 17, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Elton, Norman N 
<wne...@wm.edu<mailto:wne...@wm.edu>> wrote:

And just to confirm, we’re talking about Big Sur? It came out last November, so 
we’ve already seen a pretty substantial migration. I do recall there being a 
few extra steps, but that seems to be par for the course for Apple these days. 
We had a few extra tickets, but it wasn’t quite apocalyptic.

But we haven’t tested Monterey yet…

Norman

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of Turner, Ryan H 
<rhtur...@email.unc.edu<mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>>
Date: Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 3:30 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OSX | Big Sur | EAP-TLS Apocalypse
We were never EAP-PEAP.  It would be TTLS.  I have spoken with SecureW2 and 
hope to have better news tomorrow.
Ryan Turner
Head of Networking, ITS
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile
+1 919 445 0113 Office


On Jun 17, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Elton, Norman N 
<wne...@wm.edu<mailto:wne...@wm.edu>> wrote:

When you say “stick a fork in this”. You mean … go back to MS-CHAPv2?

Norman


Norman Elton
Director
W&M IT Infrastructure
wne...@wm.edu<mailto:wne...@wm.edu> / 757-221-7790


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of Turner, Ryan H 
<rhtur...@email.unc.edu<mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>>
Date: Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 11:29 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OSX | Big Sur | EAP-TLS Apocalypse
Will do.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Daniel Wurst
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 11:25 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OSX | Big Sur | EAP-TLS Apocalypse

Ryan,

We are just deploying SecureW2 this summer and are noticing the exact same 
thing. It is pretty horrible.
Please keep us posted if you make any progress on this issue.

Thanks,

Dan

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:17 AM Turner, Ryan H 
<rhtur...@email.unc.edu<mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:
Every operating system has its challenges, but those with TLS need to be paying 
attention to Big Sur.  Excluding the SSO sign-on, the local username and 
password has to be entered at least EIGHT TIMES to install all the certs.  I 
have never seen a worse user experience in my life with TLS, and Android had 
some bad ones.  We are working with SecureW2 to see if there can be 
improvements.  However, if this doesn’t get better, I may have to stick a fork 
in this.  Just horrible.

Those of you with TLS shops:  Find a Big Sur machine and run it through the 
process.

Ryan Turner
Head of Networking
Communication Technologies | Information Technology Services
r...@unc.edu<mailto:r...@unc.edu>
+1 919 445 0113 (Office)
+1 919 274 7926 (Mobile)


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