We have two cluster, one with issues and one without.  On the one with issues 
we are seeing roughly 4500 clients per controller.  On the one without issues 
we are seeing around 2000 clients per controller.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Street, Chad A
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 12:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone else seeing 
any issues in the fall with large classrooms and delayed connection times 
(Aruba 8.5.0.13)

For anyone who has applied the suggested fixes and are still having problems -- 
what are your client loads per controller?

I am also very curious on any feedback for anyone who has applied the fixes and 
has also successfully enabled Airwave ( not central ) without issues 
reoccurring.

Chad
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
on behalf of Patrick McEvilly 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 12:03 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone else seeing 
any issues in the fall with large classrooms and delayed connection times 
(Aruba 8.5.0.13)

A quick update on where we are at.  We had many of the same issues being 
reported and did the same workarounds.  However, we ran into a few further 
issues that others might want to be aware of.

We had one AP group that did not have our AP crash dump server configured and 
was using the "default" which is the controller itself.  ~300 APs in that AP 
group had core dumped and were trying to write to the controller.  There is 
some mechanism that checks for available space on the controller before 
dumping.  This was jamming up the same queue that is used for other critical 
processes such as STM.  This caused a huge problem for us.  We changed this one 
AP group to point to our dump server and saw immediate relief.  All APs came 
back online and clients reconnected.

Two hours later we dropped to ~100 APs connected and only 17 clients (yes 17, 
not 17,000) on our wireless network.  We had a cluster event that triggered the 
controllers to send an invalid IPv4 address to all APs which in turn caused 
every AP to go into a core dump loop (that was not fun).  The only recovery 
option available was to reboot all controllers.  It is believed this is related 
to 8.7 now supporting IPv6 in the clustering configuration.  Our controllers 
are dual stack but our APs are not.  It is possible if the APs were dual 
stacked they would have used IPv6 and continued to operate over IPv6.  Per 
Aruba removing IPv6 from the controllers is also not an option, we could still 
experience this problem.  This one was a real burn and we continue to be 
susceptible to this condition.

We are anticipating an emergency code release from Aruba in the next few days.


Patrick






On 9/3/21, 11:20 AM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on 
behalf of Jerry Bucklaew" <[email protected] on behalf of 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%20on%20behalf%20of%[email protected]>>
 wrote:

    Scott,

      I have heard it worked in several places, but we are like you.  Put in 
all the recommended changes last night and it is still happening.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
On Behalf Of Scott Swartzentruber
    Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 10:41 AM
    To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone else 
seeing any issues in the fall with large classrooms and delayed connection 
times (Aruba 8.5.0.13)

    Has anyone had success in resolving the client drops we have been 
discussing?  We had Aruba on the phone very early this morning - put the 
recommended ACL in place and did a a rolling restart of all 3 of our 
controllers.  We only had to wait to our first class change to see a huge drop 
of clients and another at the next class change.  Seems clear that the change 
and the reboot made no difference.  back on the phone with Aruba now to see 
what else they come up with...


    I don't like this ride anymore - can I get off now?


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    Scott Swartzentruber
    Director, Networking and Communications
    Forsyth Bldg, Room B-16
    828.227.3212
    [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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