Why will RadSec fix the issue?

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Tim Cappalli 
<tim.cappa...@microsoft.com>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Date: Monday, September 13, 2021 at 12:27 PM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco EAP-TLS fragmentation with active/active 
firewalls

Switch to RadSec between your controllers and RADIUS server. Should eliminate 
the issue if you don't have any other config options.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Lee Weers <wee...@central.edu>
Date: Monday, September 13, 2021 at 18:25
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco EAP-TLS fragmentation with active/active 
firewalls
Look at the load balancing on the firewalls. Depending on how it is setup, 
there is a way that all the traffic is sent to one firewall vs the other per 
session.  I know this can be done at the interface level. I don’t remember what 
they called it off the top of my head.

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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Turpin, Max
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 11:09 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco EAP-TLS fragmentation with active/active firewalls

Hey everyone,

Hoping everyone is having a peaceful start of the semester. Reaching out 
because we’re dealing with a doozy of a problem and hoping someone else may 
have dealt with this and can help.

We are running several pairs of Cisco 5520 controllers running 8.5.171 code. We 
have recently done a complete rebuild of our Clearpass environment split across 
two data centers and those are running 6.9.6. What we have found is that when 
sending traffic to this new cluster, some packets are greater than 1500 bytes 
and are getting fragmented in the environment. That would be all well and fine 
except our perimeter firewalls are active/active so in some cases, fragment 1 
goes to FW-A and fragment 2 goes to FW-B. Palo alto will drop fragments if does 
not have all parts. So these fragments are getting dropped and thus the EAP 
exchange is timing out.


  1.  As far as I’ve gotten from Cisco, 5520 controllers do not support jumbo 
frames
  2.  There is no support from Cisco on specifying an EAP-TLS fragment size 
(unlike Aruba)
  3.  I cannot move all the controllers inside the data centers as there are 
some remote controllers as part of this environment.

The only solution I can think of right now is to point the traffic to one 
firewall with policy routes with SLA tracking but that’s an administratively 
burdensome solution and frankly, kind of kludgy.

Have any of you dealt with this sort of issue? Any thoughts on this would be 
appreciated.

Thanks,
Max

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