It's easy when your 21, unmarried and live with your parents.
Muuuhaaaaahaaahahaha!!!! I have a leg up on all of you. =-O
Brian
Barry at Mutual Data wrote:
Hello Brian,
WHAT!!!! DEBT FREE!!!! You can't do that!!!! That will disrupt the
time space continuum thingee..... Didn't you know ISP's are supposed to
not make money?????
Get a grip man........ :-)
Barry
Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 10:33:19 AM, you wrote:
BR> I plan to be debt free in a year, so I hope to be ok. Everyone all paid
BR> off and ready to roll.
BR> Matt Liotta wrote:
I wouldn't worry about it since the way you did it put the investors
at risk more so than you. There is a better way to do it and before
your company gets too successful you may want to visit a lawyer and
get things cleaned up.
-Matt
Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Just typed up something on the laptop that said, "I owe you "this"
much", and we both signed it. Not fancy, but a little better than an
oral agreement. I won't miss a payment and will pay them back if it
takes closing the WISP and working 3 jobs. Missing payments is not
an option. Only if I'm laid up in the hospital. Personal
guaranteed? Well, I told them I will pay it back... I know the
agreement leaves a lot open, but I trust these 4 people. Anyway, so
they are not investors. Lastly, lets just leave me be about this :)
I'd rather not try to defend a million questions about what if this
and what if that. It is what I did and it is done.
Charles Wu wrote:
that would be a loan
what type of collateral do they have? or what happens if you miss a
payment?
have you personally guaranteed the money?
-Charles
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WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com <http://www.wispnog.com/>
August 15-17, 2005
-----Original Message-----
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Brian Rohrbacher
*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 10:20 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?
Well, I guess we would call them loans as I have all control.
Correct me if I am wrong. They gave me money at a fixed rate.
Loans or investments?
Charles Wu wrote:
well...in determing their "dumbness" (assuming you're willing to
divulge this information) - what sort of investment / equity
share / control do your investors have?
I mean...assuming it's you and the other 4, does everyone
have
an equal share? (which is a different story all together) or
does 1 single person have a majority share and the other 4 are
minority partners
-Charles
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WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com <http://www.wispnog.com/>
August 15-17, 2005
-----Original Message-----
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Brian
Rohrbacher
*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 8:05 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?
Well, I guess I found four "dumb" people that got me
started. All my start up funds came from 4 people. All
four were subs from a previous WISP I owned, (before my
partner took everything over and left me out in the cold)
they all said, "I want you providing service, not the "other
guy". So here I am. 7 months in and going strong. Oh,
almost forgot, like my lawyer has me say......all that is
just my opinion. ;-) I think "dumb" investors
are great!
Charles Wu wrote:
sure
a passive minority equity position stake in a
privately
held company is worthless, as legally, the person with the
majority stake can make 100% of the decisions (in terms of
purchasing, spending, cash distribution, etc)
think about it, if it was your money, would you
be willing
to just "invest it" into a company when the majority
partner can do whatever he/she wants to and you have no
recourse?
-Charles
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WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com <http://www.wispnog.com/>
August 15-17, 2005
-----Original Message-----
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of
*Dylan Oliver
*Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2005 4:10 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking on an investor?
Charles,
would you expand on that?
On 8/22/05, *Charles Wu* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
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