Matt,
Is it possible to get a complete address list from them or maybe a lat
long
list. If you have this from any others such as WilTel then I can start
combining this information on to one map. The end result of this will be a
web based map application where you can see what is available all in one
spot. This map will allow you to zoom and pan any way you need to. It seems
like we have some good interest in this idea if we can just start pulling
together some real data. These maps like the XO one are good but they don't
give me the data I need to create the comprehensive map.
If anyone else had similar type data where they are able to get cheap
bandwidth share the information. Even if it is just one site you know of it
will help populate the map, eventually we can get a nice big picture of the
whole country. Once that is known you can start figuring out if it will be
possible to serve your networks with wireless backhaul.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE
Find the closest POP to you on their map and let me know. I can get the
address from XO, so you can do a path analysis and determine if you can
do wireless to their roof. Their buildings are generally only 2 stories.
-Matt
Jory Privett wrote:
>I have seen the map. My question is exactly where are they and how do I
>gain access to them? Copper and Fiber are out of the question for me
>because of ILEC pricing so I would have to have some type of wireless link.
>
>Jory Privett
>WCCS
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:40 AM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE
>
>
>XO's map is available at their web site.
>
>-Matt
>
>Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>
>
>
>>Is there a list so we can all see the locations? Are you able to get
>>principal members of WISPA any deals?
>>
>>Brian
>>
>>Jory Privett wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I would be interested in finding out if one of there switches is in my
>>>area.
>>>
>>>Jory Privett
>>>WCCS
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:34 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE
>>>
>>>
>>>We have a national wholesale agreement with XO, which among other things
>>>can get us very low cost colo and roof rights at their switches.
>>>
>>>-Matt
>>>
>>>Anthony Will wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In central MN here also. I would be very interested in a project
>>>>such as this. This is the ONLY way we will truly survive. I am
>>>>currently working on a way to get into the Metro area to gain access
>>>>to cheap pipes. Hopefully we will end up in XO's or calpops CO.
>>>>
>>>>See how easy it is to get something like this started. I know that I
>>>>am south of Mike. I also know that two other WISPs are south of me
>>>>all the way to Iowa. Now if we can get those guys on board anyone in
>>>>Iowa or Illanios is likely close enough to make this real. NOW from
>>>>Illanios it really opens up..... I am an old friend to an operation
>>>>on the west side of Chicago connected to Equinix, one of the largest
>>>>carriers hotels in the nation. Now with all the wisps together we
>>>>could easily afford an OCx and get some real pricing. And with
>>>>everyone sharing in the expense we could make this licensed equipment
>>>>for a rock solid backbone for all of our networks.
>>>>
>>>>Anthony Will
>>>>Ruralnet Inc.
>>>>www.veryfastinternet.com (please excuse the cheesy site. We are in
>>>>process of completely reworking a new site.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mike Bushard Jr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm in, Central MN
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike Bushard Jr
>>>>>Reliable Internet Services
>>>>>1st Rate Computers
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>>Behalf Of Brian Webster
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:10 PM
>>>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>>>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Brian,
>>>>> Well we led a session that started a dialog on this topic. It got
>>>>>quite
>>>>>loud at times..... The end result was I am willing to donate time to
>>>>>map out
>>>>>in one location all of the data people send me with locations of POP's,
>>>>>fiber hotels and other inexpensive sources of bandwidth. This could
>>>>>be from
>>>>>any source like fiber (lit or dark) or companies that have bandwidth to
>>>>>sell. If there are WISP's who want to share the backbones they have,
>>>>>we can
>>>>>map them too. I basically just need a list of locations by lat and
>>>>>long or
>>>>>street address. If I can get enough different sources of data I will
>>>>>map it
>>>>>and make it available on line. The idea is that WISP's can see how
>>>>>far away
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>from cheap backhaul they really are and then they can figure out a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>way to
>>>>>bring it to their location. This could also serve as a way to get
>>>>>regional
>>>>>groups together to build a mutually beneficial backbone. The mapping
can
>>>>>have clickable information about each site if that is included in the
>>>>>data
>>>>>sent.
>>>>> If this starts to take off the idea was suggested that a national
>>>>>group or
>>>>>co-op be formed to manage this backbone so that one person or company
>>>>>could
>>>>>not bring down or segment part of the network. There were many ideas
and
>>>>>issues brought up about this. I don't want to get this thread started
>>>>>on all
>>>>>of that. I really just want to see where were are with access to cheap
>>>>>bandwidth and how we might be able to stitch together an ad hoc
>>>>>backbone for
>>>>>the time being. Anyone who is interested in this project please send
>>>>>me an
>>>>>email with WISPBONE in the subject line. I will create a distribution
>>>>>list
>>>>>for now and if we get it going we can set up a list somewhere to have
an
>>>>>online forum. To date I have no input from any of the people who were
>>>>>in the
>>>>>session. Just like most of these good ideas, I feel it will die because
>>>>>everyone is too busy with their own business and they hope someone
>>>>>else will
>>>>>get it going.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank You,
>>>>>Brian Webster
>>>>>www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
>>>>>Free World Dialup #481416
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:28 PM
>>>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I was told to bring this up after WiNog. Well.......????
>>>>>
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