Great.  That is what we wanted to here.  WISPA has opened the door.

Rick Harnish wrote:
Brian and others,

I can tell you that I have spent all day working on an attempt to work with
Part-15.  This isn't about, WISPA, Part-15 or any personal members of either
organization.  This IS ALL ABOUT helping those in need.  Getting organized
together and using WISP resources efficiently and prudently makes total
sense.  We have opened the door to Part-15 and are working with several
manufacturers and people well known to our industry to assist us in this
effort to mend fences with Part-15.  

It is time for all members to stop all the criticism and get behind the
effort.  Trust me, we are working diligently to get this done.  It is a huge
effort, more volunteer help is needed.  It's time to pull together.  Our
industry can use this effort to our benefit or we can continue to fracture
the industry with criticism of others.  The basic fact is this:  WISPA
members love and believe in our industry and so do Part-15 members!  So what
is the problem here?  We just need to remove the personal barriers that have
been built up in the last few years.  The only way to do that in my eyes is
to shake hands, offer help to each other and work together going forward
with goals to accomplish great feats for all of our industry.

Respectively,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up - OFFLIST

However I don't think we should "get behind" P-15 effort.  I would like 
it to be a joint effort by WISPs, not WISPA, P-15, Cisco, or whoever.  
Lets do this for the homeless down there with the side benefit of a 
little name (WISP) recognition.  Not for a specific group to "get all 
the glory".  I know WISPA is doing this for the right reasons, but 
still......Has a WISPA board member contacted P-15?  I, as a paid member 
of WISPA, want to coordinate with P-15 and make this a joint effort.  As 
soon as I get paid I will donate.

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

  
That was not offlist.....

John Scrivner wrote:

    
Could you please quote one place where I have asked for any person to 
NOT support any effort including Part-15? By the way, thanks for 
belittling the efforts of myself and several other WISPA members. I 
have given $450 in the last 48 hours myself directly to people 
helping the effort. I would be there physically helping right now if 
I could. I hope you and everyone gets involved in some way. Please 
stop bashing me, Mac and WISPA for what we are doing.
Scriv



Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

      
Rick, Bullit has a list set up for thier efforts down there.   Tehy're
organizing an emergency communications response team as we read, 
so...  Get
on the list.   I'm no fan of Bullit's either, but whatever I may feel
personally, doesn't matter.   Whoever is putting together action... 
I'm all
for it and will back in any way I can.

he has a website and a link to the list on the p-15 website.

I'd go tomorrow if I had financial help.   I can't even get there 
with what
I have in the bank.

sad.  This is the time of life when we realize just how badly we need
millionaires with a load of money in the bank.   Too bad so many people
wanted them taxed to oblivion...



North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!

        
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harnish" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up


 

        
My efforts have been hampered by a busy schedule and a request to our
  
          
WISPA
 

        
attorney to find out exactly what we can legally do when it comes to
funneling money directly to individual WISPs in need.  I can tell 
you that
it is very frustrating to deal with when there are so many people 
in need.
I will try to get something on the website today.  Cooperating with
  
          
Part-15
 

        
efforts is fine with me.  You will get no chest puffing from this guy
either.  I have already committed that I will start the WISPA 
relief fund
  
          
to
 

        
help Joe Laura (member of WISPA) who's business and home has been
devastated.  I will be sending a paypal donation of $1000 to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] today to start that fund.

Anyone wishing to donate money to this effort, please make a note 
on the
paypal donation form for WISPA Hurricane Relief Fund.  Other 
donations for
refugee support should be made through your churches, the Red Cross or
directly to Mac Dearman for his local efforts in northern LA.  His 
paypal
email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED].

I look at these efforts as multi-leveled.  There is no one avenue 
that is
better than another.  The fact is that all avenues lead to the same 
goal
  
          
and
 

        
that is to help these poor people in need with everything from 
money to
infrastructure.  Arguing about who is better or who is in the lead is
childish in my mind.

I will send Bullit an email today to see if we can cooperate 
together in
this effort.

Thank you,

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of JohnnyO
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 9:26 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up
Importance: High

Oh lord - here we go - nothing like a good pissin match in the 
middle of
the morning on Friday eh ?

I definitely applaud Mac for providing the Internet and VOIP to the
shelters his church has setup for the Refugees. We have 4 or 5 
shelters
in the area that we are providing "internet" to - no go on VOIP - 
we are
not prepared to do it unfortunately.

WISPA does need to stepup and support Part-15.org's efforts as 
well. To
not minimize what Mac or myself or other WISPs down here have done 
on a
SMALL scale, this project Bullit is heading will need help. It's time
for you leaders to bury the hatchet and overlook past history for 
awhile
on this one.

Scriv helping 1 shelter or supporting the efforts of a major Wireless
rollout across 3 states on the coast - well - let's just say -
nevermind. Any help that is provided is worth while - I just can't
believe that WISPA is so weak that it is ONLY ABLE TO HELP 1 
INDIVIDUAL
! Get real man !

JohnnyO

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up


One of our WISPA members, Mac Dearman, has already setup VOIP, 
Internet,

food and shelter for evacuees, He is doing this right now in 
Louisiana.
I do not care who gets the glory on this. I sent Mac $250. He has put
out a call for money, food, equipment and people to help him there
today.  I am sure there are many people and organizations willing to
help and I applaud all their efforts including those of Part-15.  
Right
now I consider Mac's effort in place there to be our effort through
WISPA and I think he is our front line and we should support him. I 
say
we all give what we can and let those in place doing the work continue
to help. I plan to go there myself and help but I cannot right now. So
you ask if WISPA missed the boat? Call one of Mac's shelter VOIP lines
and ask the evacuees who answers the phone there if we are helping 
today

through Mac's efforts.
Scriv


Rick Smith wrote:

 

          
I'm wondering if WISPA has missed the boat for the relief effort.

Shouldn't wispa stand behind and work with Part-15 on this one?  This
isn't a race to look best, but an effort to put WISPs on the map as
reliable and trustworthy!

http://www.part-15.org/emergencyrelief/equipment.html

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
    Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:48 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] need WISPA to step up

I am not sure where you will be getting uplink service to get out to
the world from New Orleans but here is a link to someone who may be
able to help with that.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/


Quoting Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



   

            
I think at this point there is the support needed to provide help 
for
the hurricane, but we need some organization. It seems to me this
should be a WISPA lead effort. I think someone from the board should
lead the effort or have the board designate a volunteer to lead the
      
              
            
effort.
 

          
We are ready to provide support ourselves. We can offer Tropos
equipment for instant Wi-Fi meshes as well as VoIP termination of
      
              
            
phone calls.
 

          
-Matt
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