Actually I did not speak out of turn. I stand by my original post in all
details unless you have alternate information. I am not trying to start
an argument here but I think I spoke 100% the truth in my last post. I
welcome proof to the contrary but I did not use speculation in my post.
I stand firm in my belief that WISPA is the only recognized non-profit
organization of any 501c(x) designation in the WISP industry. I agree
with your other observations about the importance of being run by WISPs
but I do not believe we should be taking away any importance in the
governance aspect of WISPA being established as a 501c6. Being
classified a 501c6 has more to do with fair governance of the
organization than it does a tax break. Read the CFRs and check out the
background of other organizations before you counter a post from me as
being false please. I was speaking what I believe to be 100% the truth
and I did it with as much objectivity and neutral bias as I possibly could.
Scriv
Tom DeReggi wrote:
I don't know that the "for-profit" claims are accurate. WISPCON is a
"For-Profit". Last I understood, Part-15 was also a "Non-Profit".
The difference is that Part-15 is an organization where control is
maintained by an individual, the owner, Michael Anderson (and
spouse?). Appropriate, since he is the founder, primary contributor,
and investor. That does not make it a "for-Profit" organization.
WISPA on the other hand is supposed to be at least in spirit, an
organization for WISPs controlled by WISPs. How realistic that is, is
not yet proven, but the ideal is there.
So lets not forget this is not about "Profit or Not", its about
control and/or guaranteeing direction and representation.
Wether or not, Part-15 funnels business to WISPCON and vice versa, or
that one intity owns both, is irrelevent. Just as it is irrlevent
that WISPA may funnel business or offer support to WISPNOG or ISPCON,
or vice versa.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Show Interests was: WISPCon
There is not a "show discount" relationship between WISPA and
WISPCON. WISPCON is not directly tied to WISPA in any way. I believe
WISPCON has a discount program through Part-15 just as WISPA has with
ISPCON and WiNOG at times in the past. There have been no discussions
of offering these discounts for WISPCON but would consider it if an
opportunity were made available to us. I believe you will continue to
see options for the discounts for WISPA members through WiNOG and
ISPCON shows in the future as long as the ownership of these
organizations see this as a valuable opportunity to help WISPA and
themselves.
It should be noted that of all organizations mentioned above that
WISPA is the only one that is federally recognized under CFR # 501c6
as a non-profit trade association.. Every other entity listed above
is working to make a profit in their efforts and as such would likely
be looking to advance individual interests over those of the
industry as a whole. WISPA is designed to promote the efforts of WISP
operators over and above all other interests. As a matter of law we
cannot act to allow one WISP to be given more consideration from the
efforts of this organization than another. This means it is truly
level ground for our efforts going forward.
This does not mean I think that a "for-profit" company cannot help
the efforts of the industry. This is far from true. I am simply
explaining the different philosophies and how one could benefit more
than another in certain situations. We are firm believers that WISPA
is the organization that most fairly represents the interests of
WISPs regarding policy issues. Other interests will develop where our
industry can share our collective efforts as we did in the
Katrina/Rita effort. WISPA will always look for different
organizations that can help us forward our efforts of better policy
to help us in our industry. Sometimes the other entities will be
"for-profit" and sometimes not.
WISPA has decided at this time to not create another show to the mix
of what many would say is an "over-crowded" industry segment. We do
allow the promotion and advertisement of shows when a show owner
works with us to provide an opportunity. This could include a
scenario where WISPA can make money and further our efforts through
exposure at show events by speaking and or exhibiting..
This may be more information than you were looking for but I wanted
to make sure everyone understood the dynamics and position of WISPA
in relation to shows around the industry. I hope that helped.
Scriv
Jory Privett wrote:
WISPA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509)
982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPCon
As a paid member of p15 or wispa?
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services
42846865 (icq) And I run my own
wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jory Privett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:18 AM
Subject: [WISPA] WISPCon
As a WISP paid member does anyone know where I can get discount
passes to
WispCon in Dallas October 9-11?
Jory Privett
WCCS
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