<snip> So Charles, start yourself a "usage based only" operation and let us know how that works out for you. </snip>
Lol... We all are already - only difference today b/n the ISP & the other 3 operations is the fact that the ISP today obfiscates their "usage billing" in legalese buried deep within the fine print of a contract -Charles ------------------------------------------- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 4:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge Scriv Charles Wu wrote: >Electricity, Gas and Water are billed on a usage basis > >Competitive market pressures aside, why should Internet be any >different? > >-Charles > >------------------------------------------- >CWLab >Technology Architects >http://www.cwlab.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of John Scrivner >Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:01 AM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge > > >I can see it now. We will soon be charging for termination and >origination of IP traffic on networks. Just like long distance phone >calls used to be. Yay....kill me now. >Scriv > > >Frank Muto wrote: > > > >>Just passing on some information that may be of interest to anyone. >>Entitlement vs. laws, and a company's TOS/AUP I'm sure are all involved >>in one form or another, as with anything else concerning the use of a >>network to access the Internet or other service. >> >>As far as I am concerned, this whole Internet and who controls (owns) >>it, is just getting dumber and dumber by the minute. Congress, the FCC, >>state and local governments, special interest groups, the Bell's, >>xLEC's etc, etc, etc., can all suck eggs. >> >> >> >>Frank >> >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Frank, >>>I have a problem with the second item listed on the challenge myself. >>>It >>>states: >>> >>>2) Consumers are entitled to run applications and services of their >>>choice, subject to the needs of law enforcement >>><http://www.cybertelecom.org/security/Calea.htm>; >>> >>>I do not allow my broadband subscribers to use their connection for >>>applications or services which act as a server or daemon for >>>delivering content to others. Broadband networks are not designed to >>>be content delivery networks from the customer end generally. In the >>>case of wireless broadband access, customers can cause network >>>problems if they allow thousands of open ports to a popular file >>>download. I have seen this many times and I have provisions in my AUP >>>which allow me to turn customers off who cause network problems from >>>trying to use broadband as a content delivery mechanism. I welcome >>>other thoughts but I believe we need to have the ability to stop >>>abuses of a network which can cause us problems. With that said I >>>agree that there needs to be some commitment from operators to allow >>>access to their networks for free and open competition. I just do not >>>agree that there can be no limits to what we can or cannot allow on >>>the network. Especially when some things can harm network >>>functionality. John Scrivner >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
