If you take Marlon's advice and do not run DHCP then you get to have
that personal contact with each and every subscriber if you ever have
to change network settings.  With DHCP running it is real simple and
quick to edit the DHCP config and wait for the DHCP client renewal .

My advice is completely the opposite.  Use DHCP for all of your
customers.  You will be happy you did and will mutter things when you
encounter someone who is not on DHCP.

The personal contact is nice but what if you have several hundred
customers?  That is just a little too nice for my tastes.

Lonnie

On 12/6/05, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't run DHCP!  And use mac filtering at the ap's.  (I use the smartbridges
> ap's. they'll do radius and authenticate wireless subs just like my dialup
> ones.)
>
> Marlon
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] How to Authenticate/Protect (WasEthernet
> basedauthentication)
>
>
> > Marlon,
> >
> >    I appreciate the advice.  Mostly I am interested in bullet proof
> > authentication of my clients.  Any suggestions?
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
> >
> >> Hiya Jason,
> >>
> >> You are mixing your networks....  You won't normally run a homebrew
> >> product to provide a top notch service.
> >>
> >> If security is of THAT great an importance to you, you should NOT run
> >> wifi anything.  Put in something much more off the wall.  It's a lot
> >> harder to snoop if you don't use one of the world's most common
> >> protocols.
> >>
> >> For these business guys I'd run Trango or something like that.  Good
> >> stuff but not nearly as much of it in use and no free tools on the
> >> internet for intercepting and cracking the data stream.
> >>
> >> What we do is remind our customers that this is the internet.  They are
> >> hanging out there for thousands upon thousands of people who's only
> >> purpose in life is breaking into their machines and seeing what they can
> >> learn.  If they have data that's that sensitive then they need a high end
> >> internal firewall and they need to VPN all internet traffic.
> >>
> >> That help?
> >> Marlon
> >> (509) 982-2181                                   Equipment sales
> >> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
> >> 42846865 (icq)                                    And I run my own wisp!
> >> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> >> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> >> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:20 PM
> >> Subject: [WISPA] How to Authenticate/Protect (Was Ethernet
> >> basedauthentication)
> >>
> >>
> >>> List,
> >>>
> >>>    I am on the precipice, ready to take the plunge and become a WISP
> >>> (After 1 year of zoning, permits, 16 hr days, etc), but one thing still
> >>> bothers me.  I haven't decided how to authenticate clients to my network
> >>> and REALLY protect their data.  The CPE's I will use, rootenna/Senao2611
> >>> combos, do only WEP, which only obfuscates data nowadays. MAC addresses
> >>> can be cloned.  Proxy login via a browser is obnoxious for the end user.
> >>> Ditto PPPoE & VPN logins.  There is just no elegant, KISS solution.  I
> >>> was looking at PPPoE or PPTP (poptop/linux) with Radius as my system,
> >>> since this would accomplish it, but seems like so much trouble and
> >>> overhead. PPTP is not Mac friendly, PPPoE requires clients (gasp) or a
> >>> router (gack!) and the PPPoE server shipping with Linux is meant "for
> >>> testing purposes only - man".  I want an Always On (apparently) system
> >>> for my clients that just works.
> >>>
> >>> How do you other (small) WISPs do this?
> >>>
> >>>    Tangent: How do you Senao 2611 users keep Netbios & windows network
> >>> neighborhood data off the wireless network.  I was told to add a SOHO
> >>> router to the mix, but don't want to invest in more equipment to
> >>> maintain.
> >>>
> >>> Jason Wallace
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