Couldn't have said it better.

Dustin 

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/delurk

Top 5 reasons why legacy navini sucks

1.SCDMA phy/mac increases latency to low of 80msec peak 280msec and avg of
100msec with 14-25% jitter.
 ( in english, the latency sucks arse )

2. only truely makes sense for sub 2 mile cell NLOS deployment with
BRS/MDS/ITFS Licensed spectrum. ( 2.5 ) licensed- reason being is that the
average recieve sensitivity that it will work in a nlos cell is -105 dbm. in
a 2.4 enviorment, the average noise floor is at least -95dbm = wont work
50-60% of the time.

3. even if they dropped the price to 10k a sector, its still a rediculous
price for a product that doesnt offer any QOS ( and cant offer qos ) to
deliver a residential service

4. Their zero truck roll model usually only applies to 60% of customer
deployments which = not a zero truck roll model

5. blatent marketing lies = unhappy customers

my 2 cents

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\lurk

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Jeff


On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:51:44 -0000, "Paul Hendry"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hey Dustin, could you elaborate on the "navini sucks" statement? We 
> where looking at deploying them so would be good to know why they are not
good.
> 
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> On Behalf Of dustin jurman
> Sent: 15 December 2005 18:48
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> Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi
> 
> I think that is supposed to be 1.5 meg a seconds.  They use navini and 
> this is just a response to shut down the new Orleans muni project.  
> And the reason they don't support VOIP over it is because navini 
> sucks.  This is Bellsouth's way of saying look! - SHINNY BLUE THING!
> 
> Dustin
> 
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> On Behalf Of Peter R.
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:23 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi
> 
> http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1134594567.htm
> 
> Post Katrina: Mississippi Gets Wireless Broadband
> 
> BellSouth has begun deploying high-speed wireless broadband speeds as 
> fast as 1.5 Gb/s in Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss., modifying the 
> company's original wireless broadband rollout plans in order to get 
> service to residents of the hurricane-ravaged area, where the 
> infrastructure damage is so huge it hasn't been fixed yet.
> 
> The incumbent local exchange carrier (ILEC), whose original rollout 
> plans envisioned only offering wide-area wireless broadband in rural 
> areas, is also offering residents of the Mississippi towns a bit of a 
> discount out of sympathy for their plight - and, of course, the good 
> publicity it might get out of the move.
> 
> "Small businesses and homeowners are still rebuilding, and they are 
> looking to BellSouth to provide the critical communications they need 
> to get their lives in order," says John McCullouch, president of 
> BellSouth's Mississippi operations. "Our wireless broadband service 
> will provide customers with a viable and economical solution for 
> high-speed Internet access."
> 
> A BellSouth spokeswoman added that, after blanketing the hurricane-hit 
> cities, the carrier will "now return to our original strategy of 
> (offering wireless broadband in) areas from suburbia on out," where 
> such services as DSL can't be delivered economically.
> 
> About a month ago, BellSouth began offering a high-speed wireless 
> service in downtown New Orleans, but that was priced as a 
> small-business service only.
> "It was absolutely critical to getting the city up and running," the 
> BellSouth spokeswoman explained, regarding the decision not to offer a 
> residential plan.
> 
> One thing BellSouth is not offering the Mississippi residents, 
> however, is voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) on its shiny, new, 
> wireless broadband.
> The company had no explanation of why, other than the simple fact that 
> it's not going to offer it for now. For more on BellSouth's wireless 
> rollout progress in the Gulf area, read the current issue of Broadband 
> Business Forecast. For a trial subscription, go to 
> http://www.telecomweb.com/cgi/catalog/info?BNN.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter
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