Couldn't have said it better. Dustin
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeffrey thomas Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:03 PM To: WISPA General List; 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi /delurk Top 5 reasons why legacy navini sucks 1.SCDMA phy/mac increases latency to low of 80msec peak 280msec and avg of 100msec with 14-25% jitter. ( in english, the latency sucks arse ) 2. only truely makes sense for sub 2 mile cell NLOS deployment with BRS/MDS/ITFS Licensed spectrum. ( 2.5 ) licensed- reason being is that the average recieve sensitivity that it will work in a nlos cell is -105 dbm. in a 2.4 enviorment, the average noise floor is at least -95dbm = wont work 50-60% of the time. 3. even if they dropped the price to 10k a sector, its still a rediculous price for a product that doesnt offer any QOS ( and cant offer qos ) to deliver a residential service 4. Their zero truck roll model usually only applies to 60% of customer deployments which = not a zero truck roll model 5. blatent marketing lies = unhappy customers my 2 cents - \lurk - Jeff On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:51:44 -0000, "Paul Hendry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hey Dustin, could you elaborate on the "navini sucks" statement? We > where looking at deploying them so would be good to know why they are not good. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of dustin jurman > Sent: 15 December 2005 18:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi > > I think that is supposed to be 1.5 meg a seconds. They use navini and > this is just a response to shut down the new Orleans muni project. > And the reason they don't support VOIP over it is because navini > sucks. This is Bellsouth's way of saying look! - SHINNY BLUE THING! > > Dustin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Peter R. > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:23 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] BellSouth and Wi-Fi > > http://www.telecomweb.com/news/1134594567.htm > > Post Katrina: Mississippi Gets Wireless Broadband > > BellSouth has begun deploying high-speed wireless broadband speeds as > fast as 1.5 Gb/s in Gulfport and Biloxi, Miss., modifying the > company's original wireless broadband rollout plans in order to get > service to residents of the hurricane-ravaged area, where the > infrastructure damage is so huge it hasn't been fixed yet. > > The incumbent local exchange carrier (ILEC), whose original rollout > plans envisioned only offering wide-area wireless broadband in rural > areas, is also offering residents of the Mississippi towns a bit of a > discount out of sympathy for their plight - and, of course, the good > publicity it might get out of the move. > > "Small businesses and homeowners are still rebuilding, and they are > looking to BellSouth to provide the critical communications they need > to get their lives in order," says John McCullouch, president of > BellSouth's Mississippi operations. "Our wireless broadband service > will provide customers with a viable and economical solution for > high-speed Internet access." > > A BellSouth spokeswoman added that, after blanketing the hurricane-hit > cities, the carrier will "now return to our original strategy of > (offering wireless broadband in) areas from suburbia on out," where > such services as DSL can't be delivered economically. > > About a month ago, BellSouth began offering a high-speed wireless > service in downtown New Orleans, but that was priced as a > small-business service only. > "It was absolutely critical to getting the city up and running," the > BellSouth spokeswoman explained, regarding the decision not to offer a > residential plan. > > One thing BellSouth is not offering the Mississippi residents, > however, is voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) on its shiny, new, > wireless broadband. > The company had no explanation of why, other than the simple fact that > it's not going to offer it for now. For more on BellSouth's wireless > rollout progress in the Gulf area, read the current issue of Broadband > Business Forecast. 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