Regarding Trango M900S-SU's and pricing, Please
contact me directly. I can assure you that if you are buying 100+ you
will pay less than $400 per SU.
Shayne
Rose
National
Sales Manager
Trango
Broadband
15070 Ave of Science,
Suite 200
San Diego, CA 92128
Office:
858-653-3900x272
Fax: 858-683-2124
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
Wow, OK, I stand corrected...
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 2:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
single was $405 at maple net.
Mac Dearman wrote:
> OUCH! I have bought singles that cheap from doubleradius
>
> Mac Dearman
> Maximum Access, LLC.
> www.inetsouth.com
> www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 -
Rayville
> 318-728-9600
> 318-376-2562 - cell
>
>
>
>
> Rick Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> Travis has gotta be full of it!
>>
>> Distributors for Trango previously, when buying in 100 packs,
never
>> got prices better than 420...
>>
>>
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>> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
*On Behalf Of *Brian Rohrbacher
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:08 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices
>>
>> You get Trango cheaper? Prices please!
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Wow.... that's more than I pay for the Trango 900mhz and
it has dual
>>> polarity integrated antennas. ;)
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Ron Wallace wrote:
>>>
>>>> My Man. Brian, Excellent.
>>>>
>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:53:40 -0500
>>>>> From: Brian Rohrbacher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [WISPA]
>>>>> Canopy buying group prices To: WISPA General List
>>>>> <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read it and weep "nay sayers" ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I found a VAR to work with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prices for canopy 900.
>>>>>
>>>>> Connectorized- $262.60
>>>>> Integrated- $328.7
>>>>>
>>>>> All details are being posted to "Principal
Members List".
>>>>> You must be a paid WISPA member to take advantage
of the offer.
>>>>> I'd like to get an estimate of volume to the
VAR. Pay up to
>>>>> WISPA and hit me offlist to how many you think
you could use a
>>>>> month (you won't be committed to this, it's just
for a general
>>>>> idea)
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron Wallace wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Go for it Brian, Doesn't matter what others think,
if we can save
>>>>> some money, good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron Wallace
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:58:47 -0500
>>>>> From: Brian Rohrbacher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:
>>>>> [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices To: WISPA
General List
>>>>> <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never done a group buy, but this is how I
would approach it.
>>>>>
>>>>> First step. Principal Members only. You want a
deal, fork over
>>>>> 200 some bucks and support the industry.
>>>>> Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units.
(500 if
>>>>> possible,
>>>>>
>>>>> but
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> prolly 100 pack to start)
>>>>> Third step. Go to moto website and look up
resellers.
>>>>> fourth step. Call resellers and get quote. Say
"look here. I
>>>>> have a buying group. I want 100 SMs, charged to
10 credit cards
>>>>> and shipped
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 10 addresses. Send me a quote to email" Forward
quote to next
>>>>>
>>>>> reseller
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and go from there. Whoever is cheaper wins. If
they want the
>>>>>
>>>>> business
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> of the buying group, they better figure out how to
cut a deal. Am
>>>>> I acting like a know it all Charles? Would all
the resellers say
>>>>> screw you if I approached like this?
>>>>> If all resellers say we can't do this.....then I
would (big trust
>>>>>
>>>>> here)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> run all cards through paypal and pay with one lump
sum and re ship
>>>>>
>>>>> from
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> here. Now add the 1.9% for paypal and add more
for extra
>>>>> shipping....don't know what that would be, but it
would be figured
>>>>> before hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just made all that up, but it seems like it
would work. Only
>>>>>
>>>>> question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> is how warranty is handled. By MAC addy or by who
bought the radio.
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone let me know if my approach is out of
line. Never done
>>>>> this
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> might be reinventing the wheel (I hope it rolls)
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> A. Huppenthal wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you don't support the idea of group buys.
Enough said. Fact
>>>>>
>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've done group buys with high-end equipment
before - it wasn't
>>>>> difficult at all. If you are comparing a public
distributor to a
>>>>> closed membership buying club, you aren't
comparing apples to
>>>>>
>>>>> apples.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I sure as hell don't want to create a distributor
organization.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, as our discussion continues, I might be
willing to send
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> George, Brian or whomever offers a group buy $2600
for 10 Canopy
>>>>> SMs if the buy is 100 units and we're all lined
up. I don't need
>>>>>
>>>>> support,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> training, stocking, any of the services that
distributors offer.
>>>>> Frankly, I don't need my distributor under cutting
me to sell
>>>>> direct to customers. You have your pros and cons
for going to
>>>>> distributors for *everything*. Certainly what's
being discussed
>>>>> here isn't pretending to create a distributor that
has *everything*..
>>>>>
>>>>> Frankly I think the board with the exception of
myself, uniformly
>>>>> doesn't support group buys.
>>>>>
>>>>> The buyers create the relatonship for the purpose
of the buy, it
>>>>>
>>>>> ends
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> when the product is delivered.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles Wu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>> You would think it would work that way, but Volume
Buying ends up
>>>>> eating the organization and the organization
becomes caught up in
>>>>> being a volume club.
>>>>> </snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> We all know that there's more to a WISP than just
putting up an AP
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> getting a T1 line
>>>>>
>>>>> Having run both a WISP and a distribution company,
I can
>>>>> personally attest to the fact that there's more to
distribution
>>>>> (which is what your
>>>>> proposing)
>>>>> than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you considered all the risks / implications
that the buying
>>>>>
>>>>> group
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> faces? For starters, there's the question of
payment -- given that
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> buying group has no / limited credit, chances are
that any vendor
>>>>>
>>>>> will
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> require cash up front for the purchase
>>>>>
>>>>> So, for example, say Motorola Canopy is the
product WISPA chooses
>>>>> Then WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/
$100k to purchase
>>>>>
>>>>> that 500
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> pack (at say, $200 / unit for simplicity's sake)
Then, WISPA /
>>>>> Buying Group needs to come up w/ a warehouse to
store stuff Then,
>>>>> WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a
shipper/logistics guy
>>>>> to repackage / ship stuff
>>>>>
>>>>> On top of that, chances are, 50% of the WISPs who
committed to
>>>>> purchasing the packs will renege and/or delay
their deliveries due
>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>> unforseen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> things
>>>>> that always happen in deployments (e.g.,
lightning, customers
>>>>>
>>>>> don't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sign
>>>>> on, interference from competitor, DSL coming to
town)
>>>>>
>>>>> So now, WISPA / Buying Group needs to hire a sales
guy to sell
>>>>>
>>>>> excess
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> units
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, you've added overhead (and you need to add an
administrative
>>>>>
>>>>> fee /
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> margin to compensate)
>>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime, either
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Motorola to announce a 50% price reduction in
their Canopy
>>>>> line, and all WISPA members now wanting the new
lower price
>>>>> (therefore causing a
>>>>>
>>>>> huge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> loss)
>>>>> 2. Trango (or some other company) to come out w/
the new "flavor
>>>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> month" and no one wanting the inventory anymore,
sticking WISPA w/
>>>>>
>>>>> $100k
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> worth of boat anchors
>>>>>
>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>> CWLab
>>>>> Technology Architects
>>>>> http://www.cwlab.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Brian Rohrbacher
>>>>> Reliable Internet, LLC
>>>>> www.reliableinter.net
>>>>> Cell 269-838-8338
>>>>>
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>>>>> Ron Wallace
>>>>> Hahnron, Inc.
>>>>> 220 S. Jackson St.
>>>>> Addison, MI 49220
>>>>>
>>>>> Phone: (517) 547-8410
>>>>> Mobile: (517) 605-4542
>>>>> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Reliable Internet, LLC
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>>>>> Cell 269-838-8338
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Ron Wallace
>>>> Hahnron, Inc.
>>>> 220 S. Jackson St.
>>>> Addison, MI 49220
>>>>
>>>> Phone: (517) 547-8410
>>>> Mobile: (517) 605-4542
>>>> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>
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