Tom,

You cannot forget that there are big differences in quality, it's not just
the dish but the mount as well.  As we utilize almost everything that you
list here with the exception of PAC Wireless there is a huge difference in
quality between Andrew and Gabriel quick fires.  While the Gabriel might be
the best value, it has the Chester cheese doodle mount when compared to that
of an Andrew.  

Dustin Jurman
President
Rapid Systems Corporation
1211 N. Westshore Blvd
Tampa, FL 33607
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
813-232-4887




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3 ft Dual Pol antennas

I actually got clarification on the Pacwireless solutions yesterday.
2 ft feeds do not work for 3 ft dishes, different lengths.
The PacWireless is a dual pol feed on a 3 ft dish, but only has the gain of
less than a 2 ft dish.
The purpose of upgrading from a two foot to three foot was to increase gain
not decrease it.
So PacWirelesslesses Dual Pol dish today, is a useless product. I was told,
its in engineering now for a redesign.

Gabrial 2ft dual pol- 28.9 dbi   ($350) - best value to day.
Radiowaves or Andrews 3ft dual pol- 32 dbi ($1024) - desperate to get 3 more
db.
Gabriel 4 ft Dual Pol -34.5 db ($1000.)
Pacwireless 2ft single pol - 29 dbi ($180) Pacwireless 3 ft single pol- 32
dbi ($250) - Very cost effective Option, if you can live with Single Pol.
Pacwireless Dual Pol (3 ft)- 27 dbi. ($450) - worthless.

There is a clear gap in our options for 3 ft dual pol, and good value.

Four feet dishes are a big pain, won't fit through some hallways and most
roof hatches. And the windload is atrocious, when trying to mount it.

Three feet dishes are MUCH easier to work with, half the windloading, are
safe to install on existing wall mounted masts of slightly smaller diameter
(2.5") left from Teligent and simliar companies.  But yet maximizes the
available DB able to get from an antenna for a link.

I'd really like to see a 3 ft Dual pol option under $600, at some point. 
What really is Dish antenna anyway? More or less just a large trash can lid!

How much can it really cost? Its not that difficult. I'd like to see
PacWireless finish the job, and redesign that feed to get the 32 dbi that it
should be able to get.  Or Gabriel to fill in the hole. What I'd really like
to see is Maxrad make a Dual pol version of their 3 ft dish. There 3 foot
single pol dish was the best we have ever tested from a gain point of view,
really sweat.  It out performed all the 4 fts from competitors. Its around
$450 but its only single pol now :-(

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message -----
From: "G.Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3 ft Dual Pol antennas


> Pac wireless has a 2ft dual pol, and a 3ft single pol, maybe the 2ft
> Feedhorn fits the 3 footer?!
>
> Gino A. Villarini,
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.aeronetpr.com
> 787.273.4143
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 3:48 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] 3 ft Dual Pol antennas
>
> The street price I have found on 3 ft Dual pol 5.2-58Ghz parabolic 
> antennas
> have been around ....
>
> $1045 for Andrews, and $1025 for Radiowaves.
>
> Any vendors on list in a possition to do better than that? If so, contact 
> me
>
> off list.
>
> I find it odd, that there is such a large gap between 2 feet and 3 feet.
> 2 feet Dual pol gabriels are runing around $350.  It would be nice if
> someone came up with something half way in between for 3 ft dual pol.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
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