We do have dual radio mesh with 400mW and 100mW output power.  You can find
more information at http://www.defactowireless.com/Brochures/NewMesh.pdf

I can have someone contact you offlist about the new products.

David Peterson
AirMatrix

On 5/2/06 5:30 PM, "John Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We kind of got sucked into this. We have been working with Cisco as a
> muni provider and were offered the Mesh training, which was good. A City
> IT manager found out about the mesh and wanted it-before it was even
> available-which wasn't so good. We could either install it and make some
> money or walk away and not make money. Based on the data sheets, I had
> high hopes, now that reality has set in, I am disappointed. I understand
> why Ciscos pricing is higher-they bought Airespace and need to get their
> investment back. That doesn't justify the fact the their gear is 3-4 x
> what the competitors is. We are dealing with cities, and most of them
> have a Catalyst 6500 in the back room. They tend to standardize on Cisco
> and are willing to pay the price.
> 
> Dos airmatrix have a dual radio mesh box? I just looked and the mesh
> boxes seem to be single radio 2.4 only.
> 
> John
> 
> Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
>> Yay branding.
>> 
>> Actually my commpany is certified on cisco mesh. Which doesn't mean I would
>> sell it or recommend it. I actually tell most customers to consider lower
>> Cost options because there are so few real differentiators in mesh products.
>> 
>> 1. Its far too overpriced ( retail of 4k per unit makes a 50 unit mesh a
>> 240k project when compared to say, airmatrix which would run the operator
>> Close to 50k. So is one product is 4x greater cost than the other, then
>> There is something really screwy going on.
>> 
>> 
>> -jb
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/25/06 7:10 AM, "John J. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> Cities don't want home brew, they generally want something that says Cisco
>>> on
>>> the side. Every city that we ahve recently talked to either has a Cisco
>>> Catalyst 6500 at teh core or has written a RFP to buy a switch that directly
>>> indicates a Catalyst 6500. Note, I am talking about cities with populationd
>>> of
>>> 25,000 and larger, I can't speak for the smaller towns.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: chris cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:00 AM
>>>> To: ''WISPA General List''
>>>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
>>>> 
>>>> Why not just buy the cards, boards, antennas and make a few yourself?
>>>> 
>>>> c
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:46 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
>>>> 
>>>> Then there are companies like airmatrix that charge less than 1k per
>>>> node.
>>>> The key with mesh is density, and many mesh startup's fail because they
>>>> Underbuild their networks.
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/24/06 7:53 AM, "John J. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> I don't know what equipment they are using, but Cisco AP1500's (mesh)
>>>>>         
>>>> are
>>>>       
>>>>> abnout $3700 each and Cisco recommends 18-20 per square mile. Thats
>>>>>         
>>>> $74,000
>>>>       
>>>>> for the boxes plus antennas, mounts, POE and install.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>         
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: chris cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 07:26 AM
>>>>>> To: ''WISPA General List''
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> $173K per mile build out cost?  Somebody just bought a new boat......
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> c
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>           
>>>> On
>>>>       
>>>>>> Behalf Of George
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:08 AM
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_hi_te/muni_wi_fi_hiccups
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am not a fan of muni wireless.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> George
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