Charles,

Although your advise does bringrealism to the debate....
I think you are leaving out VLAN requirement in your view.
Mikrotik, gives the VLAN functuionality that is needed. That is worth money.
Mikrotik gives the flexibilty of dual radio configs.

I'm not even sure the expensive name brand mesh units you quoted support VLAN. Do they?

Yo may want to look at Alvarion. Alvarion does support VLAN. new Firmware4 supports double VLAN also. Alvarion used to have one model that was designed to have a second integrated radio into it.
I can't remember if it was a 900/2.4 combo, or a 5.8/2.4 combo.
From a support perspective you can't get any better than Alvarion.
But the price was much higher, in the $2000 range I thought.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] looking for a device


Hi Matt,

To throw in a dose of realism -- even if you roll your own Mikrotik solution
- it will most likely cost you more than the $300-600 / unit budget that you
have (and you get ZERO support =)

Example

RB532A: $185
SR5: $105
SR2: $105

All that is is a board and 2 radio cards -- then you still need to add in
pigtails / poe / enclosures / stand-offs / antennas / PITA factor / etc

Then you got to figure out how to make it work =)

For a complete, supported w/ manuals/etc, FCC CERTIFIED system -- you will
probably be in the $1k+ / unit ballpark (or $3k+ if you go Strix, Tropos,
Firetide, Skypilot, etc)

-Charles

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 1:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for a device


I would expect the devices to cost somewhere between $300 and $600 each.
As far as support goes, I would expect it to be similar to other low
cost radio vendors like Trango, etc.

-Matt

Sam Tetherow wrote:

What are you willing to pay and what are your support requirements?

   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Matt Liotta wrote:

I understand you are suggesting I wouldn't have to psychically build
the devices, but that isn't what I am worried about. I want an
off-the-shelf product that is supported by a vendor. That includes it
being pre-built, software installed, and support available.

-Matt

Sam Tetherow wrote:

If you order it all from wisp-router they will assemble it for your
so you would get a die-cast case with the RB mounted the radios and
pigtails installed.  All you would need to do is set up the software
end of things, which could be done with a script once you have the
initial setup done.  One thing to note, I have not ordered 5Ghz
pigtails from wisp-router in quite sometime, but the last time I did
order them, their quality was questionable.

I would bet if you went the WRAP/StarOS route wisp-router would do
the same.  No idea on other vendors or the WAR boards as I have
never ordered them.

   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Matt Liotta wrote:

I am looking for a device I can buy that does all of this out of
the box. I don't want to build my own since I need 30-40 of them in
the next 30 days.

-Matt

Sam Tetherow wrote:

Mikrotik on a routerboard 532 should do the trick although I
haven't messed with the VLAN stuff.
I am not a StarOS user, but I would bet that a StarOS setup on
either a WRAP or WAR board would work
as well.

   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Matt Liotta wrote:

I am looking for a device with the following requirements:

* Can backhaul at >11Mbps operating in the 5.2Ghz band
* Can support VLANs
* Can assign a VLAN to one Ethernet port
* Powered by PoE (the standard is not required)
* Can act as a 2.4Ghz Wi-Fi access point assigned to a different
VLAN than the Ethernet port
* Everything in a single outdoor enclosure

Any ideas?

-Matt












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