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>why do you do it?
I'm a top poster. I hate having to
essentially re-read the previous email to find the added reply comments
(especially when it's a long email and you ultimately just find an added "yeah
me too" way down at the bottom). I find that incredibly annoying. I
prefer replies where you pick-out what you're replying to and copy it to the top
along with your reply. Concise. The originals are all there below
for reference if you want them, but you don't have to scroll down to find the
reply. You can more clearly see the chain of replies too (when each
reply edits the same body, it quickly becomes impossible).
I know it's a religious preference / argument and
there's no right or wrong, only a preference ... but you wanted to
know "why", so ...
peace
Rich
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 8:17
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In
Against Net Neutrality
You guys that post using this incredibly annoying
bar at the left... why do you do it? It makes c
onversational email impossible...
Read on below. comments are prefaced
with >>>>>
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:37
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In
Against Net Neutrality
I respectfully disagree and think that WCA's
position of less regulation and allowing network operators operate their
networks how they want is the right approach. Net neutrality
legislation opens the door for content companies and your subscribers to
force open and equal access to all content on the Internet.
>>>> I don't see the
problem with content companies and subscribers having equal access to each
other. That, after all... IS WHAT I PROVIDE!
How many WISPs on this list are limiting
P2P traffic separate from other traffic? I'll bite... I
am.
>>>> Me too, but this has
little to do with net neutrality, since peer to peer sharing involves
HOSTING, and that I specifically don't generally allow. Terms of
Service has covered hosting forever - since long before Napster was
someone's dream.
How many WISPs on this list are prioritizing
VoIP traffic separate from other traffic? I'll bite. I am.
And I only prioritize VoIP traffic to and from my own VoIP servers and not
VoIP traffic from Vonage or anyone else.
>>>>> I will eventually,
and I will be entirely neutral as to whose servers it goes to...after
all, if I can't serve my customer's needs, then what the heck am
I? A fraud?
How many WISPs on this list are filtering
NetBIOS, RPC, and other traffic deemed malicious? I'll bite... I am
again.
>>>>> Yeah. Me
too. Again, this has nothing whatsoever to do with limiting
access to content.
Now the last one, I can't imagine being sued
over, but I hope you see my point.
These controls are important for me to manage
my network and ensure a quality of service my customers expect.
Net neutrality takes these controls
away.
>>>> I seriously doubt
that.
Dave
989-837-3790 x 151
989-837-3780 fax
129 Ashman St, Midland, MI 48640
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:56
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In
Against Net Neutrality
The WCA is showing its true colors.. the WCA stands
for the interests of
Verizon, AT&T Wireless, Sprint, and the other
big Cell Carriers (many of
which incidentally are owned by AT&T,
Bell South, and Verizon RBOCs). With
statements like this, I
don't believe that the WCA will ever be looking out
for the interests
unlicensed WISPs.
If you think that blocking net neutrality is the
path to "controlling your
own network", you have missed the entire
point. Without effective net
neutrality legislation, the RBOCs
and the CableCos will own the internet and
tariff the hell out of the
traffic that flows through it. It will be one
more nail in the
coffin of the mom-n-pop operator that can't afford to pay
tariffs to
get their subscribers access to "premium" content. It will drive
the customers of small operators to switch to the RBOCs and CableCos
because
those networks will be the only "fast" networks or the only
ones that have
"access" to everything on the internet.
- Larry
Yunker
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA
General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent:
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: [WISPA] WCA Weighs In Against
Net Neutrality
> WCA Weighs In Against Net
Neutrality
>
> http://www.telecomweb.com/tnd/17310.html
>
<http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/telecomweb.com/;sz=180x150;ord=021450>
>
>
The *Wireless Communications Association International* (WCA) has come
> down against network-neutrality legislation, joining one of the
pressure
> groups that has been opposing moves in *Congress
> </search/?query=Congress>* on the polarizing issue
(/TelecomWeb news
> break, /June 15).
>
> Representing
about 250 companies in broadband wireless carriage and
>
manufacturing, WCA has teamed with the recently formed
>
*NETCompetition.org* group organized by Scott Cleland, president of
> *Precursor LLC*, and which bills itself as an "e-forum" for
debate but
> clearly positions itself among the vocal
anti-net-neutrality factions.WCA
> claims its motive is to promote
growth and innovation in advanced
> communications over broadband
wireless by protecting the business from
> net-neutrality
regulation
>
> "With spectrum a scarce and expensive resource,
it is imperative that
> wireless broadband providers remain free to
manage their own networks,"
> said WCA President Andrew Kreig in a
prepared statement. "Net-neutrality
> regulation would discourage
innovation and investment in more competitive
> broadband choices
to all Americans. Our member companies are investing
> heavily in
WiMAX </search/?query=WiMAX> or other '4G' types of
>
next-generation broadband competitive alternatives. Our companies are part
> of the competitive solution, not part of the regulatory
problem."
>
> Other supporters of NETCompetition.org include
the *American Cable
> Association*, *CTIA-The Wireless
Association*, the *National Cable &
> Telecommunications*
*Association*, the *United States Telecommunications
>
Association*, *Advance/Neuhouse Communications*, *Alltel*, *AT&T*,
> *BellSouth*, *Cingular*, *Comcast*, *Qwest
</search/?query=Qwest>
> Communications International*,
*Sprint*, *Time Warner Cable*, *Verizon
>
</search/?query=Verizon> Communications* and *Verizon
Wireless*.
>
> With the WCA's membership, Cleland remarks that
next-generation wireless
> broadband companies are concerned net
neutrality regulation would
> discourage investment, adding, "More
innovation and competition are the
> antidotes for net-neutrality
concerns, not backward-looking government
>
micromanagement."
>
> The development comes after key *House*
committees and a full House floor
> vote passed a new
video-franchise and telecom bills after defeating
> repeated
amendment attempts to codify stronger net-neutrality laws and to
>
give the *Federal Communications Commission* greater
powers.
>
> The debate over net neutrality - with many pro and
con pressure groups
> frantically trying to get attention - now
turns to the *Senate *Committee
> on Commerce Science and
Technology, where a massive communications-reform
> bill also
allegedly lacks strong net-neutrality provisos as well as to the
>
Senate Judiciary Committee that is considering separate net neutrality
> bills in an antitrust, anti-monopoly context (/see related
stories in
> today's Telecom Policy Report/).
>
> The
Senate Commerce Committee may mark up its draft on Thursday (reschuled
> from tomorrow) while Senate Judiciary's Subcommittee on
Antitrust,
> Competition Policy and Consumer Rights that same
afternoon has slated a
> hearing on the impact of the proposed
AT&T/BellSouth merger (in light of
> consolidating telcos
becoming a factor in the net-neutrality fight).
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> RAD-INFO,
Inc. - NSP Strategist
> We Help ISPs Connect &
Communicate
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>
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