Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill toencouragehighspeedinternetaccess in rural areas]

[Travis Johnson]

Hi, I live in a farming community. I drive to many of our towers thru what was once farmland (wheat, grain, etc.) and it now just weeds... yet the farmers still collect each year from the government for owning a piece of ground that they don't farm. I want to collect a yearly check from the government for every tower that I did NOT install because it would drive the price down too low. :) Travis Microserv chris cooper wrote: America wants cheap food. Period. In the past, cattle took better than 30 months to reach slaughter weight on grass.  Under current industrialized agricultural methods cattle can go from birth to the meat case in less than 12 months.  Its very similar for chickens, hogs or any other common form of protein we consume on a daily basis. All this requires cheap grain, which in turn is produced with assistance of govt. subsidization.  In the past, meat was often a luxury meal for most Americans.  Now we all get to eat it nearly every day. Most of my neighbors farm. I don’t know one of them that would be taking subsidies just to screw the American taxpayer.  Farmers usually just end up being a small cog in the great wheel of food production.  So, if you don’t like the system, don’t participate.  Buy all your food from a local producer and pay the actual price of production+profit. Don’t patronize  Safeway, or Walmart or Kroger etc.- otherwise you are implicitly participating in the system.  It’s a much more complicated issue than just paying farmers not to produce.   Chris   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill toencouragehighspeedinternetaccess in rural areas]   Yes, I totally DISAGREE with the government paying people to NOT grow crops. What ever happened to supply and demand? I thought that was lesson #1 in Economics. Travis Microserv Cliff Leboeuf wrote: So David,   I guess it is fair for me to assume that you don't agree the the government paying some NOT to grow wheat or NOT to raise pigs so that those that DO can survive on a reasonable profit margin and not be flooded by over production creating too much product for not enough demand...?   :)     On 8/9/06 8:57 AM, "David Sovereen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:     Since when do the people on this list support taxation, waste, and government subsidies?  Why should the burden of providing high-speed Internet to people in underserved (typically rural) areas fall on the shoulders of taxpayers?  I don't want my taxes to pay to expand your network or for Joe User to get your service.   If people want services, they should live in a city.  If they want to live in rural areas, they should do so with the understanding that services (water, sewer, EMS, schools, cable, high-speed Internet, just about anything and everything) are harder to come by and sometimes more expensive.  No one makes people live in the country.  People choose to on their own, and they should take responsibility for the costs and/or lack of services associated with that decision.   Just my own 2 cents.   Dave   989-837-3790 x 151 989-837-3780 fax   [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mercury.net   129 Ashman St, Midland, MI  48640 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chadd Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill toencouragehighspeedinternet access in rural areas]         IMO they need to start giving money to the end users to pay for hookup and installation. Stop paying to expand WISP's networks and give the money       where     it is needed, if you want a bigger network pay for it out of your own pocket. In IL I doubt you could drive from Chicago to St.Louis and not be able to hook up to a WISP.     Give money to the people who need to put up a 45ft tower to get access.   Thanks, Chadd         -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:54 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encouragehighspeedinternet access in rural areas]     Don't forget the 3rd great lie..."I'm from the government and I'm here to help you"   :-)     Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106         -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006   -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org   Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless   Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/             __________ NOD32 1.1699 (20060809) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

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