The one thing I would note about many of the "roll your own" systems is that typically they consist of a certified module (mPCI card) and a single board computer. As long as you stick to single radio setups, then typically the only thing required is a Declaration of Conformity (unintentional radiator testing). This is quite a bit cheaper than a full certification that has both the intentional and unintentional radiator tests. That said, it *does* require the certified module to have been certified with a wide range of antennas, which is not commonly done today.
Oh, and consider our horn tooted. :-) -Hal -------------------------- Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC http://www.deliberant.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 7:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] roll your own radios.. One reason the non certified manufacturers are not certifying their equipment is because of the changes that take place in such short time periods. To certify a system, the radio card, the antenna AND "the board" which drives the card has to be certified together as a complete system. The roll your own non certified equipment changes very fast. It's always a newer faster board or a newer better card. Just a few months ago the CM9 was the rage of Atheros, now seems like the WLMG54 is popular. couple months ago wraps were the ticket and now it's war boards.. I don't think it's likely to see too many certifying systems under these conditions. But I'm sure they could easily be certified. it just takes money. George Matt Liotta wrote: > Jack Unger wrote: >> First, our "small group" can certainly influence manufacturers. The >> voice of an industry trade organization (which is what we are) carries >> a lot of weight if we simply decide to use that voice to speak out. >> Only if we say nothing, will our voice carry no weight. In that case, >> we might as well cease to exist. >> > We can influence manufacturers by explaining what we want them to > produce and if they produce it we will buy it. Take for example the > whole thread on MTU size, which seemed to get at least one manufacture > to take notice. That however is because they could actually lose sales > if they don't pay attention to our needs. I personally don't see any > benefit provided by current non-certified gear, so its not like I will > start buying the gear if it was certified. Therefore, what incentive > would such a manufacture have knowing my position? I guess a better > question is what benefit does non-certified gear have over certified > gear? I personally don't see the benefit, so why waste time trying to > convince the manufacture to certify it? >> Second, I'd venture a guess that many WISPA members DO sometimes buy >> non-certified equipment. We can't make a blanket statement that all >> WISPA members buy only certified equipment. Even if it were true that >> all WISPA members bought only certified equipment (and I'll bet you a >> steak dinner that it's not true) what about all the other WISPs and >> WISP-industry providers who are on our mailing lists and who are >> influenced by what we say and do? Is it WISPA's job to stand up for >> what's legal and what's right or should WISPA just say "Forget it, we >> don't care, it's not our job, and we're too busy". >> > I am all for standing up for what is legal, but what does that mean in > practical terms for WISPA? >> I submit that it's part of our job to educate the industry. If WISPs >> don't know that certification is a requirement, then IT'S OUR JOB to >> help them learn. Once they know the laws of the industry that they are >> joining then they will want to buy certified equipment. >> > Why is it our job? >> By the way, who would start a business in an industry and then not >> want to know the laws that regulate that industry? How far would I get >> (and how smart would I be) if I opened a new restaurant in your >> neighborhood but I didn't stop long enough to learn about the >> sanitation laws in your city? Would you feel confident bringing your >> new girlfriend to my restaurant on Friday night? >> > Those are interesting questions that don't seem to apply to my position. > A more analogical question would be should the other restaurants help > you learn what you are unwilling to do on your own? How long will a > business survive with such an attitude? Why not just wait for them to > die on their own? > > -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
