You pay more per customer than an Alvarion user Matt since all your
customers are on dedicated PtP shots though, right?

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links

I believe we have one of the highest APRUs in the business and we use 
Canopy (including Orthogon). We do like the Trango Atlas, but only for 
limited deployment.

I don't really think the price of the radio correlates to the revenue of

the service.

-Matt

Tom DeReggi wrote:
> As much as I've protested Canopy, (in my mind poor design), the 
> smaller the gaps are getting.
> The problem is that Trango kept degrading their gear more and more 
> like Canopy. And Canopy kept improving their gear.
> Trango still wins, because Trango is less expensive.
> Canopy still has some of the traits that I also don't like about 
> Trango (darn DSS dish antennas).
>
> My goal is to gain the High Arpu business.  Who the winner will be is 
> not a dying breed product, but the manufacturer that steps up to the 
> plate to deliver a complete product.
> I want to be done with half-assed antennas.   What I've learned is 
> that the ANTENNA IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE RADIO.
>
> Trango's strength had always been their internal antennas and options 
> for good external ones.
>
> On a side note, Does Canopy 5.8G CPEs have external connectors?
>
> The truth is, I want the cheap CPE antenna option, for half my 
> installs, cause it saves me money and thats all I need to do the job. 
> I just don't want to give up the flexibilty to optimize reliabitly for

> the other 50%.
>
> The other thing you forget is, I'd now rather fight it out, and stay 
> put on the channel, doesn't mean that I will win.  With Trango, I 
> still have the option to change my mind, when somebody beats me up, 
> and I need to go run to another channel or polarity. Its always good 
> to have a backup plan.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:24 PM
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL Fixes Problems with Backhaul Links
>
>
> <snip>
> What I'm learning is that as my business grows, the abilty to change
and
> move (channel options) is becoming less important that the abilty to
> effectively battle it out. The reason is that if every time I hiot 
> noise, I
> move away from the channel, eventually others take those channels.,
until
> they are all gone, and their is no where else to move to. Sometimes
its
> better to claim the space and say, "I'm here first", "go find another
> channel to play on".  And keep fighting back with better antennas. As
the
> antenna grows, you over power the interference, but the important 
> point is,
> you reduce the interference to you and them, by restricting the 
> beamwidth.
> The high power via antenna you go, the more courtious it is to the
other
> player to attempt avoidence of signals interfering.  Alvarion gives
that
> advantage.
> </snip>
>
> Tom,
>
> Based on that observation...shouldn't you be looking at Canopy
<ducking>
>
> -Charles
>
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