LOL! Good for the cops.
I just signed up a customer last week, a "convert" from a different system. He had a 24 db grid, using a 1 watt "powered over coax" amp connected at the antenna, and a linksys WET-11 attached to that through about 30 feet of LMR-400. Said it was "unstable" that way, which is why he switched... That calculates to a theoretical 250 WATTS EIRP. He was about 3-4 miles from the access point, with a single tree in his backyard blocking the path. I have customers at his distance using a VAGI and 16 dbm radio.... Which is like... 8 - 9 miles.. He had asked if I'd hook him up using his equipment... Seemed quite disappointed I switched him out and made him buy mine... I was recently asked by a couple of "wireless consultants" about a poorly working setup they had. It seems they have an omni on a tall downtown rooftop. It's a 9 or 11 db omni with a .5 W amp attached. Just .7 miles away, in direct line of sight, is one of their homes, which has a 24 db grid pointed right at the omni, and the connection, they said, was "up and down". They wanted to know if an amp would improve the throughput, which was apparently quite... erratic. After a lot of discussion, they finally told me that a competitor has another omni IN LINE between them and the home and that they thought it was a 15 db omni with a 1 watt amp. I think I finally convinced them that they were signal overloaded, and that changing out the client end for...say.. 9 to 12 db gain antenna would probably help solve the issue... They still seemed taken aback at the notion that they needed less signal, they had assumed that a bi-directional amp was the key... I wondered why everytime I tell someone in that town I provide wireless broadband, they ask how soon I'm moving in... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Forbes Mercy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:13 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs > Only one warning in that advice. If the FCC takes any interest which they ususally don't (think CB) the first one they will require testing on is you. We had a person running 40 watts and a quick call around found that the FCC likes to make sure the complaintant is also above board. We've been beseiged with competitors who take the philosophy that causing us interference is their business model. I don't like them as much as any of you but we just had a person in Spokane, WA who praised the police, whom they called, for catching a burglar who was in their house. This was said as they were being hauled off to jail for a pot growing operation in the house that was being burglarized. They called Police then they went to jail. Just remember the law is looking for all abusers not just the one you want them to take out. > > Forbes > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Mon 11/27/2006 9:23 PM > To: WISPA General List > Cc: > Subject: Re: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs > > > > Me? I'd make a few calls about it. > > First to them. It's amazing how often management doesn't know the rules. > > If that won't fix it, I'd call Motorola. > > If that doesn't work, I'd call the FCC. > > The last thing this industry needs is people screwing with the one thing > that the FCC has been a stickler on. EIRP is a sacred stone. Mess with it > and someone at the commission will be getting pissed. > > Make DAMN sure you know what they are doing and with what frequencies first > though. Nothing worse than making that kind of false accusation. > > And sometimes having someone else call the company and ask around is a good > idea. If you can get me a name and number I'd be happy to make a call for > you. As would, I'm sure, anyone on the wispa board. > > Good luck. > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:48 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] illegal CPE installs > > > > Travis, > > > > What's the illegality? > > > > Are they using 5150 - 5250 (indoor use only)? > > > > Are they exceeding + 30 dBm EIRP on either the AP or the SM? > > > > jack > > > > > > Travis Johnson wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Curious to everyone's thoughts about a regional WISP installing illegal > >> CPE units? They are using Last Mile Gear 120degree Canopy 120 degree > >> sectors (5.2GHz) and then putting the Canopy 5.2GHz SM in dishes at > >> customer locations. I am talking about thousands of CPE installed this > >> way and doing more every day. This company covers several western states > >> (Idaho, Utah, Nevada, etc.) and also does Dish Network satellite TV > >> installs. > >> > >> Is this OK? 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