Hello Tom, Just speaking from first hand experience and the experiences of the references Alvarion gave me. Nothing more. <grin>
The VL gear is a great product for a "best effort" solution, but not a committed rate business class service. Two very different animals. Again, my post was only because Marlon indicated he intended to use the VL gear for a business class rollout. I just wanted to give him a heads up, that's all. I do believe Alvarion's move to lower the price on the VL gear was to put it within the reach of the market the product could best perform. The VL gear does fly on "bursty - up to" traffic. It is amazing when it works, but it isn't able to maintain that level of service 24x7. It's like the VL flys when it can and then holds off looking for clean air time then flys again. This is perfectly fine for 99% of the residential requirements, but doesn't cut it for a business that is pushing and pulling 5Mbps+ FDX 12hrs a day. In contrast a Trango M5830 will push and pull 4.5Mbps FDX or 8-9Mbps HDX all day long regardless of the RF environment if the link is engineered correctly. Best and Merry Christmas! Brad -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Brad, I'm not sure that is a fair statement. I agree, TDD/DSSS/Pol Diversity solutions can tackle that noise better, one of the reasons Trango is still the only clear choice for a good number of my cell sites. But there are many reasons WISPs are making the move to OFDM. Alvarion handles OFDM as well if not better than other OFDM solutions. If we are comparing apples to apples (OFDM to OFDM) Alvarion has many built in features to help guarantee QOS for high end business compared to other OFDM solutions. If OFDM is an Option for the WISP, Alvarion is as good an option as anyone else for the job. I do not agree that Alvarions move to go after residential market negates their quality for business markets. Residential markets will simply sell higher volume of CPEs, allowing a lower sale cost. For me the distinguishing factor in available OFDM gear is.... Ease out of the box versus Built-in testing tools and flexibility. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Hello Marlon, VL won't be a good choice as a committed rate business grade product as it will modulate down in a noisy environment. Without any RX threshold mechanism the VL radio begins to slow and drop packets under heavy business class loads in unfriendly RF environments. Even the references given to me by Alvarion while overall have been happy with the product are not using VL for committed rate business class service. IMO, Alvarion is now pushing the VL product as a residential "best effort" solution...hence the dramatic drop in price. In Patrick's words: "A $285 all inclusive CPE with nothing extra to buy, piece together, etc. should fall within the residential business model of even small WISPs." We've been there and almost lost a valuable client trying to use VL for a committed rate business class customer. The VL gear is a high quality product with a number of valuable features, but it is missing a few key items that keep it form performing well (or at all) as a committed rate business class solution. Only reason for my post was because of your intended use of the VL product. Best and Merry Christmas! Brad -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Right on! Can't wait till I build another business grade system out here. That's what I plan on using. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Dougherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 6:47 AM Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived > Well we got our 1st 100 pack of VL Su's under the Comnet program > yesterday- Just wanted you all to know they are the EXACT same radios as > before the big price drop- Same high quality metal radio and still > INCLUDES the mounting hardware AND the pre-made cat5 outdoor cable (60ft > long)- the cable is worth more then you can imagine- the RJ45 plug is > already factory terminated and properly shielded so your installers > don't have to do that up on the roof and you don't have to worry about a > bad connector later. > > We have deployed a LOT of these radios already and I can tell you this > is a great price. I'm looking forward to Alvarion extending this program > to other products. 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